Pfaff 335 binding conversion

[Wizcrafts]

  On 4/27/2023 at 9:30 AM, NEWAY said:

Just curious how much would it cost to change out parts so that it will suit the work that I intended it for?  Even if I have to spend another $900 I think it would still be a better deal than the other run down 335 asking for $1800?

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No matter what parts you swap out, you will not be able to get a 4 motion feed dog on this binder machine. The feed dog only moves forward and backward on this machine, which was designed to sew bias tape binding onto the edges. That means that the feed dog may actually fight the feed as it slides forward directly against the bottom of the leather.

If you plan to apply edge binding, this is a great machine. Otherwise, if you want it for normal sewing operations, you'll need a 4 motion feed dog, aka: a drop feed machine.

[NEWAY]

  On 4/27/2023 at 11:15 AM, kgg said:

I used the specifications for the PFAFF 335 from the pfaff industrial website which is for the newer model ( pfaff-industrial.com/en/portfolio/sewing-machines/cylinder-arm/pfaff335 ) which lists the needle system as 134-35LR and needle size from 80-100. Be careful with what you see as you need to know how thick and what type of leather as well as what modifications were made to the machine. Like @Wizcrafts said a used Consew 227R would be better. Another consideration would be a Class 341/1341 machine like a Juki 341 or 1341 or a clone.

kgg 

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Good point, I didn’t think that there could be such big differences between different variants of 335.

Haven’t seen any Consew on my part of the globe.  Guess I will have to wait.

 

 Thanks!

  On 4/27/2023 at 10:57 PM, dikman said:

I concur, if you don't want the 335 to use as a binder then you will be better off buying a "conventional" cylinder arm machine, one with reasonable clearance (at least 3/8") under the feet. In the long run it will be more versatile and a better investment.

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Yup!  I didn’t realise that there are such big differences between different variants of 335, so the wait continues.  Thanks.

[NEWAY]

  On 4/28/2023 at 3:50 AM, Wizcrafts said:

No matter what parts you swap out, you will not be able to get a 4 motion feed dog on this binder machine. The feed dog only moves forward and backward on this machine, which was designed to sew bias tape binding onto the edges. That means that the feed dog may actually fight the feed as it slides forward directly against the bottom of the leather.

If you plan to apply edge binding, this is a great machine. Otherwise, if you want it for normal sewing operations, you'll need a 4 motion feed dog, aka: a drop feed machine.

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Very well explained!  Thank you!  So the wait continues…

[kgg]

  On 4/28/2023 at 5:06 AM, NEWAY said:

Haven’t seen any Consew on my part of the globe.

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Where are you located so other machine options that are more common in your area can be suggested.

kgg

[NEWAY]

  On 4/28/2023 at 10:53 AM, kgg said:

Where are you located so other machine options that are more common in your area can be suggested.

kgg

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I am based in Austria.  Just picked up a Adler 49-1 for price of a decent dinner.  May not meet my needs but it is a good start for me to familiarise myself with the machine and prepare me for the next purchase.

[kgg]

  On 5/29/2023 at 6:51 PM, NEWAY said:

Just picked up a Adler 49-1 for price of a decent dinner.  

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Looks in great shape and a right handed machine to boot, very unusual these days.

kgg

[dikman]

That is a great-looking machine! I love the exposed mechanics.

[NEWAY]

  On 5/29/2023 at 10:56 PM, dikman said:

That is a great-looking machine! I love the exposed mechanics.

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Just found out that it is similar (or possibly identical triplets) with the Singer 18 and Pfaff 24.

[NEWAY]

  On 5/29/2023 at 7:25 PM, kgg said:

Looks in great shape and a right handed machine to boot, very unusual these days.

kgg

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It is indeed after spending half a day dousing it with sewing machine oil and managed to free it from its frozen state.

It appears that it has only been lightly used (from commercial machines perspective)

everything move smoothly except it is not feeding, the feeddog is slight worn but it moves, roller is free, perhaps roller need special set up?

  On 5/30/2023 at 5:03 AM, NEWAY said:

Just found out that it is similar (or possibly identical triplets) with the Singer 18 and Pfaff 24.

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[dikman]

When the roller is down is it resting on the feed-dog? Does it have any downward pressure to hold the material against the feed-dog?