Juki LS 1341

[toxo]

I may have asked this before  but I'm getting old. I want to upgrade my Adler 69 and I keep looking at the LS 1341. I make bags and smaller. First question, is there something else I should be looking at? (UK) And if not, how comfortable is the Juki with upholstery type projects?

[kgg]

22 minutes ago, toxo said:

I want to upgrade my Adler 69 and I keep looking at the LS 1341. I make bags and smaller. First question, is there something else I should be looking at? (UK)

I think if you can afford a new Juki LS-1341 you will be pleased however if you need the smaller gauge nose then you would need to go to the LS-1342 which would also give you the additional vertical stroke adjustment for going over thick seams.

Here is a link to the Juki LS- 1340 series so you can compare the models in that series. ( https://www.juki.co.jp/industrial_e/admin/pdata/filedata/332/ls1340.pdf )

Then there are the clones which are less costly.

kgg

[toxo]

1 hour ago, kgg said:

I think if you can afford a new Juki LS-1341 you will be pleased however if you need the smaller gauge nose then you would need to go to the LS-1342 which would also give you the additional vertical stroke adjustment for going over thick seams.

Here is a link to the Juki LS- 1340 series so you can compare the models in that series. ( https://www.juki.co.jp/industrial_e/admin/pdata/filedata/332/ls1340.pdf )

Then there are the clones which are less costly.

kgg

Thanks for that. I'll certainly take a look. Whatever it turns out to be it won't be new. Currently I have the Durkopp 239 flat bed and the Adler 69. There's an Ebay dealer over here that sells a lot of machines he's listing a Juki LS 1341 for what looks like a reasonable price. I could part ex the Durkopp or the Adler or both so that will ease the pain. Is there a list of clones that are of reasonable quality? I do like the backstitch lever on the Jukis. It's a lift up on my two Durkopps.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175861103293?hash=item28f2237abd:g:hgMAAOSwJIZiQyzI&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4JPjvpe2zuTzTUufu1DR%2BpTnrkEPbsPVwB3GH4PL3bCOR%2F3%2FQKsXP3a%2FMTZagHnJl0bUkX2ldn6aKVQoUf6DdgPsY%2FPwmF7w%2Bl5DNdf1H7S4mamIVBC0TsYtpDeo1aXOTM%2BrZ1UxqA6nA7iSzN8HWWUkyQLwS2RrYY75zhwKmmCQuIDwLvdjyPk0MXr1EUG6eEOJdKXCMZv1bu1WVI7%2FLzJph1NbQ0%2FfvPQwSvAQ38XHhnmIncCIGxigsr4xRVvQafVFKc0LMhA%2Fu9NHSOHfZzeZ7fgZ6APPIuvxDMzHyZ%2F1|tkp%3ABk9SR8KQlvSEYw

[kgg]

@toxo

Looks to be in good shape,  price seems in line with what a good used one would cost at about 45 percent that of a new one on this side of the pond. However I would probably checkout some of the clone dealers like Tysew, Typical or Highlead you never know what they may have.

kgg

 

Edited December 2, 2023 by kgg

[toxo]

6 hours ago, kgg said:

@toxo

Looks to be in good shape,  price seems in line with what a good used one would cost at about 45 percent that of a new one on this side of the pond. However I would probably checkout some of the clone dealers like Tysew, Typical or Highlead you never know what they may have.

kgg

 

Thanks kgg. How do you tell the difference between a clone and a re-badged original? I would love to find what I want from Tysew because they're just the other side of London and so driveable. Not hearing good things about Tysew from another dealer but I suppose that's a given but it's such a minefield out there that I'll be scared of anything but a genuine machine. Then there's the question of is it a Japanese machine or a Chinese one?

[kgg]

51 minutes ago, toxo said:

How do you tell the difference between a clone and a re-badged original?

Some of the rebadged machines actually had the original manufacturers identification in the bottom of the casing. I don't know of any rebadged machines out their today but I haven't looked. Most clones are made in China or Taiwan these days. Even with the Juki machines not all models are made in Japan as I have a Juki DNU-1541S made in Japan and my Juki DU 1181N is made in China. As far as I'm concerned here is a difference in quality. The Juki DNU-1541S, Juki LS-1341 and the Juki TSC-441 are still made for now in Japan. Also some models are made in  Vietnam.  Seiko's are also is still made in Japan. 

I do know that all clones are not created equal. The casings maybe a bit rougher some made with Chineseism metal but the problem is some don't use the original style of bobbin mechanisms and the quality of other internal parts can be less then. A couple years back a member was having problems with his 1541 clone bobbin and bobbin case mechanism and when we compared his photo's to my Juki Dnu-1541S they were completely different. Just like the parts in the Sailrite portable walking foot sewing machines are generally less then hence the price difference between the Sailrite at $1500 CAD and the clones at $600 CAD. They have to cut corners somewhere.

Dealers bad mouthing other dealers machines is like the pot calling the kettle black. I would ask an independent repair person as to what he generally sees as problem machines.

The only advice I can really give about the clones is deal with a dealer brand name or clone that you think can supply the best after market service.

kgg

 

[toxo]

3 hours ago, kgg said:

Some of the rebadged machines actually had the original manufacturers identification in the bottom of the casing. I don't know of any rebadged machines out their today but I haven't looked. Most clones are made in China or Taiwan these days. Even with the Juki machines not all models are made in Japan as I have a Juki DNU-1541S made in Japan and my Juki DU 1181N is made in China. As far as I'm concerned here is a difference in quality. The Juki DNU-1541S, Juki LS-1341 and the Juki TSC-441 are still made for now in Japan. Also some models are made in  Vietnam.  Seiko's are also is still made in Japan. 

I do know that all clones are not created equal. The casings maybe a bit rougher some made with Chineseism metal but the problem is some don't use the original style of bobbin mechanisms and the quality of other internal parts can be less then. A couple years back a member was having problems with his 1541 clone bobbin and bobbin case mechanism and when we compared his photo's to my Juki Dnu-1541S they were completely different. Just like the parts in the Sailrite portable walking foot sewing machines are generally less then hence the price difference between the Sailrite at $1500 CAD and the clones at $600 CAD. They have to cut corners somewhere.

Dealers bad mouthing other dealers machines is like the pot calling the kettle black. I would ask an independent repair person as to what he generally sees as problem machines.

The only advice I can really give about the clones is deal with a dealer brand name or clone that you think can supply the best after market service.

kgg

 

I think I'm resigned to an original. My lifelong motto is "If I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all" I daren't risk it.

[kgg]

10 minutes ago, toxo said:

I think I'm resigned to an original. My lifelong motto is "If I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all" I daren't risk it.

I think that is a wise decision. I think going with a Juki would be probably a good choice particularly since access to accessories and replacement parts is easy and are priced reasonably.

kgg

 

[toxo]

5 hours ago, kgg said:

I think that is a wise decision. I think going with a Juki would be probably a good choice particularly since access to accessories and replacement parts is easy and are priced reasonably.

kgg

 

What would be a bonus is if the Juki LS1341 takes the same presser feet as my Durkopp 239. (where are you Folker) because I have all the feet ever made for that. I saw a pic and they look similar.

[shoepatcher]

Also consider Adler 269.  In same class as the Juki 1341, 1342.

glenn

[toxo]

4 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Also consider Adler 269.  In same class as the Juki 1341, 1342.

glenn

Oh no Glenn. Has a lift UP reverse. Also Adler accessories are expensive.

[shoepatcher]

269 a great machine.  i had one.  Parts for the Juki 1341,1342 are not that cheap as well.

glenn

[toxo]

2 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

269 a great machine.  i had one.  Parts for the Juki 1341,1342 are not that cheap as well.

glenn

Are the presser feet on the 1341 the same as the singer 111 cos I've got all of them.

[shoepatcher]

Yes   Singer 111 feet fit 1341 machines

[toxo]

2 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Yes   Singer 111 feet fit 1341 machines

Oh that's great news,  not least because I put the old Durkopp 239 flatbed together for selling and blow me it was sewing perfectly. And I have all the weltng feet in all the sizes and and all the spring loaded guides left and right  

So I think it's gonna be the Adler 69 That's gonna make room for the LS 1341

I do have an error to put right.  The reverse on the 239 is pull down but it is high up.

[MDeBo]

Hi- I am in the market for a used Juki LS-1341. Can anyone tell me the price range I should expect for a good condition machine with stand and servo motor?

Matt

[MDeBo]

Hey Guys-

New on here so forgive me if this has been answered. I am in the market for a pre-owned Juki LS-1341 in the US. What range should I expect to pay for a well-maintained and well-functioning machine?

 

Matt