deboardp Posted January 13, 2024 Author Report Posted January 13, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, ScottWolf said: No, those are recipes that have oils in them, which most conditioners do; they are examples Yes, they are heavy with oil. Saying they are not, that they are recipes with oil in them, does not make them not heavy with oil. If I recall correctly, one of your first recipes had two full 16oz bottles of oil in it! Your conditioner is not a grease but is an oil. I had considered using an oil in my grease if the grease was too thick, but I thought maybe a tablespoon or two in an 8 ounce portion of grease. I'm not going to oil my leather, I'm going to warm-and-wet stuff it with grease. Edited January 13, 2024 by deboardp Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 13, 2024 CFM Report Posted January 13, 2024 16 hours ago, SUP said: Making essential oils must be time consuming, isn't it? I'm actually looking for a leather or tobacco fragrance. I'm a bit tired of everything smelling of orange! I thought my leather at least should smell a little different. Last week I added a tiny bit of a solid scent that I bought last month. It is a paste so blends right in. Strong scent so only a little was needed - smells of leather and tobacco. If I don't get a good fragrance oil for a leather fragrance, I will probably continue to use it. i figure two days to make one batch, one to collect the fresh flowers, herbs, and a day to distill and collect the oils. Get some really nice smelling pipe tobacco and smoke your leather with it. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 13, 2024 CFM Report Posted January 13, 2024 8 hours ago, ScottWolf said: The "Recipe" itself(how to go about making it) allows you to insert what ever ingredients YOU want to use. So basically just do the same thing the old guys back in 1895 did, and the old guys in the 1700s, 1600s, 1500s... Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members SUP Posted January 13, 2024 Members Report Posted January 13, 2024 (edited) 38 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: i figure two days to make one batch, one to collect the fresh flowers, herbs, and a day to distill and collect the oils One of the uses of a still, I guess. Or just keep a handful of tobacco along with the leather maybe. After all, cigar boxes smell wonderful too - used to get them from my uncle who smoked cigars. Edited January 13, 2024 by SUP Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 13, 2024 CFM Report Posted January 13, 2024 1 minute ago, SUP said: one of the uses of a still, I guess. LOL I cant talk of that on social media. but a finer Brandy I've never tasted. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members SUP Posted January 13, 2024 Members Report Posted January 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: LOL I cant talk of that on social media. but a finer Brandy I've never tasted. I'll take your word for it. Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
deboardp Posted January 13, 2024 Author Report Posted January 13, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: So basically just do the same thing the old guys back in 1895 did, and the old guys in the 1700s, 1600s, 1500s. I thought the old guys used grease, you know, tallow and lard, not oil? Maybe it was just the English... Edited January 13, 2024 by deboardp Quote
Members SUP Posted January 13, 2024 Members Report Posted January 13, 2024 (edited) There are only so many waxes and greases suitable for the purpose. Over the centuries, all the combinations will have already been tried, isn't it? Finally, it is just hydration, lubrication and water proofing, whatever the products used. If Aussies, with over 94% petroleum products is considered wonderful - people wax eloquent about it - as much as tallow and lanolin and beeswax and other animal products, it shows leather is hardy and not really fussy, is it not? And @deboardp if you are concerned about the vegans and vegetarians, why not emulate Aussies? There's proof for you that petroleum products do not actually harm leather and do not need animal products or indeed, labor-intensive procedures like hot-stuffing with grease to remain in good condition. Edited January 13, 2024 by SUP Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 13, 2024 CFM Report Posted January 13, 2024 Just now, deboardp said: I thought the old guys used grease, you know, tallow and lard, not oil? They did, they also used some oils depending on the use of the leather. Oils make your leather soft so you use them as you want your leather to become. I would tend to think saddle makers didn't want a lot of softness but more long term water resistance so didn't use much. Other old recipes I've seen have had added oils. Do you feel like you've walked around the Grand canyon and just got back to the parking lot lol. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members SUP Posted January 13, 2024 Members Report Posted January 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: Do you feel like you've walked around the Grand canyon and just got back to the parking lot lol. Been there, done that. @deboardp Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
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