jbird Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I am need of help what needles and thread should I be using for belts wallets and stuff like that, you what type of thread 3 cord of what , and where can I get it. Thanks josh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I am need of help what needles and thread should I be using for belts wallets and stuff like that, you what type of thread 3 cord of what , and where can I get it. Thanks josh Josh, I use, (for belts, wallets, etc... anyway). 3 cord, flax thread made by Barbour's, and I get it from Campbell-Bosworth. I also use size 4 needles by C.S. Osborne, from Campbell as well. These needles are smaller than the tandy's and I really like 'em. The thing to watch out for is the awl size. I use an awl from Peter Main with this combination of needles and thread and it works extremely well. If you've got a large awl, you may want to up the size of cord to fill in the larger holes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King's X Report post Posted January 16, 2009 I don't mean to stomp on this thread, but I had a question for RAWHIDE. I looked on your supplier's website and saw your desired thread, but what does it mean "left" or "right" twist? I thought it would be better here then in a PM in case other would be interested. Greetings from Round Rock, Texas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbird Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Good question I would like to know to. Josh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Good question I would like to know to. Josh For hand sewing the twist doesn't make a difference. For use in a sewing machine, one would use the left twist. I buy the left twist just to give me the option to use a machine. I'm not sure the specific use of the right twist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lippy Report post Posted January 16, 2009 Try both a left hand and right hand twist. I'm not sure about the physics, but right hand twist works for me. The individual cords tend to twist apart when pulling the thread tight using a left hand twist. You should try to read all of Jim Saddler's posts about hand sewing and threads. I'd love to watch him sew. From what I've read he's done a bit of hand sewing. Here's one of his posts. http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?s...amp;#entry51922 Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King's X Report post Posted January 17, 2009 Appreciate the input. Greetings from Round Rock, Texas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbird Report post Posted January 17, 2009 Thanks alot Marlon and atx Josh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trav Report post Posted January 21, 2009 the left and right twist for a machine is because one is used on the bobbin and the other is used for the top threading. I have an American straight needle that sew a lock stitch and these are what i use Trav Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bree Report post Posted January 21, 2009 I got my newsletter from Tippmann yesterday and they have something new on needles and thread. Here is the link. Check it out. http://www.tippmannindustrial.com/needlean...a44ba76d85105a8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barra Report post Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Just a little diagram to show left and right twist. S = right and Z = left twist. Barra Edited January 21, 2009 by barra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnD Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Maybe I'm missing something, but from Barra's picture it looks as though left or right twist would be a matter of which end is up? It seems that most folks that handstitch have a needle on either end, so I guess I'm not seeing how the right or left twist makes a difference? John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Maybe I'm missing something, but from Barra's picture it looks as though left or right twist would be a matter of which end is up? It seems that most folks that handstitch have a needle on either end, so I guess I'm not seeing how the right or left twist makes a difference?John For hand sewing it doesn't...if you use the thread in a sewing machine, then it will matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnD Report post Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) I agree, Marlon, that it shouldn't matter with hand stitching, but, in Libby's link to jimsaddler's post he specifically mentions hand sewing. "The unraveling is usually caused by using Lefthand, Reverse (Z) twist thread when hand sewig. It is best to use a Righthand twist (S) . " So, I'm curious as to how it could make a difference with a needle at both ends? While searching for clarification I came across this http://www.superiorthreads.com/education/144/ , which didn't clear anything up but does mention using an "opposite twist" for hand sewing. My concern with this is that, lately, I seem to be having some trouble with my stitching. I've been making quite a mess of things at times and would like to get to where my stitching is neat and consistant. I would have posted in the thread from Libby's link but figured this was a more recent thread on the subject. John Edited February 1, 2009 by JohnD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted February 1, 2009 I agree, Marlon, that it shouldn't matter with hand stitching, but, in Libby's link to jimsaddler's post he specifically mentions hand sewing."The unraveling is usually caused by using Lefthand, Reverse (Z) twist thread when hand sewig. It is best to use a Righthand twist (S) . " So, I'm curious as to how it could make a difference with a needle at both ends? While searching for clarification I came across this http://www.superiorthreads.com/education/144/ , which didn't clear anything up but does mention using an "opposite twist" for hand sewing. My concern with this is that, lately, I seem to be having some trouble with my stitching. I've been making quite a mess of things at times and would like to get to where my stitching is neat and consistant. I would have posted in the thread from Libby's link but figured this was a more recent thread on the subject. John Hmmm, I've never had any problems with the left hand twist. Maybe I've just figured a way around it without knowing it. I've purchased 3 cord and 5 cord already, and don't really see myself running out in a LOOOOONG while, so until I use it up, I'll probably stick with what I've got. If I run into someone that has some right hand twist, I may see if I can bum a couple of feet to compare. Thanks for the knowledge John. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
