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Hello

So far I have been using hemp yarn for welted and for the sole to make boots and shoes (all handmade).

In principle I will continue to use it for the welted as it suits me well (unless you advise me on a thread that is more worthwhile),  but I would like to use another more polished and in different colors for the sole.

I have no idea what thickness is suitable or the most appropriate material. 

Could someone help me? 

Thank you very much

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Most use braided or twisted polyester or nylon thread. There are a lot of threads on the market, but the ones I use are the Ritza 25 braided and the Maine Thread Company braided and twisted. I like braided better than twisted, because the twisted tends to come unraveled as one stitches, due to the pressure on the tail. It can be retwisted to a degree, but it’s a bit of a pain. The braided Maine Thread is a round braid, unlike the Ritza flat braid. The Maine Thread feels stronger to me, but it’s also a royal PITA to pierce with a needle that has a large enough eye to thread effectively. I use 0.8mm, generally, but 0.6 would also do the trick. I tend to buy heavy threads because I don’t make many delicate items, and a lot of what I make needs to hold up to some heavy use. 

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I use black Nyltex Thread for anything sole related.  I know Springfield carries it as well as several other supply houses.  As far as I know, it comes in at least 3 colors, black, brown and white.  You might find it in tan as well.  I think it only comes in one thickness. 

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4 hours ago, Aven said:

I use black Nyltex Thread for anything sole related.  I know Springfield carries it as well as several other supply houses.  As far as I know, it comes in at least 3 colors, black, brown and white.  You might find it in tan as well.  I think it only comes in one thickness. 

Good to know. Is it a particular kind of nylon? I may get some for some hunting boots I plan to make soon, as I need to attach the sole very sturdily. 

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I honestly don't know much about it.  It's what Jason had us use in the shoe making classes.  It was impossible to break and it comes prewaxed.

I know that several shoe making shops, orthopedic supple houses carry it. 
 Are there other options? Probably, but I was satisfied with it.  I've only used it on three pairs of shoes with rubber soles, so my experience is limited. 

If you want a more informed option, you could contact Southern leather Co or Springfield to see what they know about it.

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Thank you very much to all of you. 

I have never seen (or not noticed) a shoe sewn with flat thread. Does it look good? Wouldn't you have any pictures to see how it looks?

0.8 would be enough for boots or better 1mm?

I like to know that being flat it won't get the needle in the thread when sewing (with the round sometimes it happens. More than I would like).

On the other hand there is a problem: I am from Europe and of the ones you have told me about here I can only find the Ritza.

Thank you

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All of my shoes have been more on the rustic side of custom.  In my mind Ritza isn't a bad choice, just a bit expensive for my budget.

If you have a local cobbler, and if they are willing to talk shop with you, ask them for their opinion on threads and maybe they will share where they get it from.

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On 10/6/2024 at 3:39 PM, Mablung said:

 twisted tends to come unraveled as one stitches, due to the pressure on the tail. It can be retwisted to a degree, but it’s a bit of a pain

When doing longer runs of hand stitching it helps if you drop both threads every now and then, it will recoil its self and then and then a quick re-wax.

Hope this helps

Jcuk

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1 minute ago, jcuk said:

When doing longer runs of hand stitching it helps if you drop both threads every now and then, it will recoil its self and then and then a quick re-wax.

Hope this helps

Jcuk

Thanks for the tip.  I re-wax occasionally but don't know that I've ever just dropped the strands to let them relax back to normal.  I'll try that.

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Its helps not perfect but good enough. Just remember if they are so long to hit the floor hold them enough to help the threads re-coil

 

 

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On 10/6/2024 at 3:11 AM, Kovant said:

Hello

So far I have been using hemp yarn for welted and for the sole to make boots and shoes (all handmade).

In principle I will continue to use it for the welted as it suits me well (unless you advise me on a thread that is more worthwhile),  but I would like to use another more polished and in different colors for the sole.

I have no idea what thickness is suitable or the most appropriate material. 

Could someone help me? 

Thank you very much

Try waxed linen 1mm thread thickness would give a polished look and durablity for sole stitching 

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