Belt Edges Machine Name

[CuirByCarlos]

Hi guys,

Where can I find this machine or the disk ?
What's its name so I can look for it.
Thanks

[dikman]

Looks like a home-made edge burnisher to me.

[JD Bodger]

https://www.campbell-randall.com/product/model-vsb-burnishing-machine

I've had one for a few years and it's a great edge burnisher.

[dikman]

Well, there you go. The one in the OP's photo is certainly a bit the worse for wear (hence my home-made comment).

[CuirByCarlos]

12 hours ago, dikman said:

Looks like a home-made edge burnisher to me.

It is used a lot in Pakistan and India, even Russia.
I have seen it on many videos.

[CuirByCarlos]

11 hours ago, JD Bodger said:

https://www.campbell-randall.com/product/model-vsb-burnishing-machine

I've had one for a few years and it's a great edge burnisher.

Thank you so much.
The one I posted there a groove so you put the belt edge inside it.

[JD Bodger]

When I purchased my vsb burnishing machine there were several wood/felt/diamond coated "plates" available.  The motor has a variable speed dial and there is a switch to reverse the rotation direction.

The vsb also has an attachment that fits over the "plates" to attached a vacuum too.  This attachment appears to be removed in the picture.

It is possible to stack two "plates" on top of the machine.  In the picture there is a wood "plate" over a felt & leather "plate".

The felt and wood "plate" comes new with a flat edge.  With use the felt "plate" will develop a natural groove for your belts, etc. to fit in.

The wood "plate" comes with a flat edge also and if you have woodworking tools you can sand or use a rat tail woodworking file to create a groove.

The diamond coated "plates" are already grooved and ready for use.

The machine is very quiet and has a small foot print.

[Northmount]

Moved to leather machinery.

[CuirByCarlos]

3 hours ago, JD Bodger said:

The wood "plate" comes with a flat edge also and if you have woodworking tools you can sand or use a rat tail woodworking file to create a groove.

Thanks so much.
I am planning to use a bench grinder and put a groove in it if possible for sanding the edges. What do you think ?

[JD Bodger]

In my opinion the best path forward would be to find someone with a wood lathe to cut in a groove for you (I used my wood lathe to do this and it was fairly straight forward).

You'll be disappointed using a bench grinder to put in the groove - it will be "V" shaped and not a straight cut.

You could also draw a center line around the "plate" and place it in a vise and use a round 'rat tail' wood rasp to remove a "U" shaped groove along the face of the "plate".  You'll have more control

going this route than with a bench grinder.

[Cumberland Highpower]

I don't know the exact model of the burnisher in your photo, but the wheel is made by Galli in Italy. Look up Galli SPA on Google.

I have a Randall/Campbell VSB and Galli FCE/FCE+2 burnishers and they use the same wheels.  Randall/Campbell VSB's use Galli wheels as well.

You can buy a VSB from Randall/Campbell or make your own burnisher if you're handy. But, you'd need to either order the arbor for the wheel from Randall/Campbell or machine your own.  The cover plate that JD Bodger mentioned for the VSB is actually a Bosch made clear plastic cover for a router table.

Randall/Campbell builds the VSB on variable speed servo sewing machine motors, but you can use about anything you desire.   I'd strongly recommend just buying one from Randall/Campbell so you can get to work.

Edited December 16, 2024 by Cumberland Highpower

[AlZilla]

On 12/10/2024 at 2:51 PM, JD Bodger said:

In my opinion the best path forward would be to find someone with a wood lathe to cut in a groove for you (I used my wood lathe to do this and it was fairly straight forward).

You'll be disappointed using a bench grinder to put in the groove - it will be "V" shaped and not a straight cut.

You could also draw a center line around the "plate" and place it in a vise and use a round 'rat tail' wood rasp to remove a "U" shaped groove along the face of the "plate".  You'll have more control

going this route than with a bench grinder.

Since it appears the plan is to make a way to mount the disk (plate) and spin it to burnish the edges; why not mount it, spin it under power and hold the round file against it to make the groove?

Unless I'm misunderstanding what's going on here.

 

Edited December 16, 2024 by AlZilla

[JD Bodger]

I agree with Cumberland. Purchase the machine from Randall-Campbell instead of trying to build one.  I've been there, done that thinking I could home build a machine better/cheaper than purchasing one and end up spending more money and being frustrated with the final product.

I don't recommend holding the rat tail file against the "plate" with your hands due to safety reasons.  The file handles taper to a dull point that could pierce a hand/finger/eye if the file were to catch on the spinning "plate".