DieselTech Report post Posted Monday at 11:56 PM Guys & gals I got this Cowboy Hat pattern from tandy & I am curious if I can sew it up on my Cobra class 26? I am going to use some 4-5oz Crazy horse pull up leather, or at least planning to use. I think I will have to sew most of it, inside out, at least the top anyhow. Can this be done? I kinda want to use this as a learning aid to get more confidence with my machine sewing. Thanks. Any & all help will be greatly Appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:05 AM Basically I am wanting to machine sew this hat. Lmao idk yet if it can be done. Lol at least at my experience level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fredk Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:43 AM Yes, I reckon it can be done on a s/m From top down it would be, crown to crown former, highest of the band, lower of the band, fold band inside rim and sew around, then sew the re-enforcing strip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Tuesday at 03:00 AM 14 minutes ago, fredk said: Yes, I reckon it can be done on a s/m From top down it would be, crown to crown former, highest of the band, lower of the band, fold band inside rim and sew around, then sew the re-enforcing strip Thanks. I almost got all the leather cut out. I am trying to visualize the construction as I go. Trying to learn the steps to sew it together with a machine, versus awl & needle by hand. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlZilla Report post Posted Tuesday at 07:20 AM You should be able to with that cylinder arm.. I've made a few hats and been tempted to try at least part of it on my 111W. That pointy little front/crown area is going to be a bear, A couple of practice pieces would be nice. Commercial hat manufacturers do it by machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Tuesday at 10:50 AM 3 hours ago, AlZilla said: You should be able to with that cylinder arm.. I've made a few hats and been tempted to try at least part of it on my 111W. That pointy little front/crown area is going to be a bear, A couple of practice pieces would be nice. Commercial hat manufacturers do it by machine. Thanks. Yeah I quite haven't figured that point part out yet, in my head or how to go about sewing it. I guess I will see how it goes. Lmao at least it's no super high dollar leather, but I hate to waste any type of leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlZilla Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:11 PM when I was considering it, I thought to use the premarked punch holes to determine the exact center, front and back, of all the pieces. Then punch or awl them together, no different than working with fabric. Maybe hand sew the tops and machine the bottom. You've got one spot at the top where the top and crown pieces all meet. The other drawback to that would be matching threads top and bottom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Tuesday at 02:30 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, AlZilla said: when I was considering it, I thought to use the premarked punch holes to determine the exact center, front and back, of all the pieces. Then punch or awl them together, no different than working with fabric. Maybe hand sew the tops and machine the bottom. You've got one spot at the top where the top and crown pieces all meet. The other drawback to that would be matching threads top and bottom. Thanks. Yeah I am going to use the alignment punch holes that were included & marked on the pattern. Lmao I just don't know how it's going to turn out. I think that very pointed front spot I will have to finish it by hand. Or at least I think. Edited Tuesday at 03:42 PM by DieselTech Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Wednesday at 05:43 PM (edited) Well it is far from perfect!!! Lmao. I learned alot from this project. All I can say Tandy's pattern is not for machine sewing. It only has 5mm seam allowance, which really is not enough real estate. Might be ugly, but I am pretty happy with it. Edited Wednesday at 05:45 PM by DieselTech Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Wednesday at 05:46 PM (edited) Another pic.Pic. I need to bevel the top & edge paint it now. Edited Wednesday at 05:47 PM by DieselTech Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlZilla Report post Posted Wednesday at 08:06 PM Yeah, interesting. I think that very top is supposed to be right sides together but what you did sidesteps a lot of the problems with machine sewing it. Unless I misread the patterns. Did you also combine the bottom stitch of the hat band with the bottom of the crown and brim? It's not remotely ugly. Nice work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Wednesday at 09:06 PM 55 minutes ago, AlZilla said: Yeah, interesting. I think that very top is supposed to be right sides together but what you did sidesteps a lot of the problems with machine sewing it. Unless I misread the patterns. Did you also combine the bottom stitch of the hat band with the bottom of the crown and brim? It's not remotely ugly. Nice work. Yes. The top is constructed wrong, per the instructions. I did it that way to simplify the sewing procedure. Also I used the so called hat band to cover my drunk driving sewing. But next time I am going to use the hat band to sew/attach the brim & top it 1 step. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlZilla Report post Posted Wednesday at 10:19 PM NoYes, the top is supposed to be right side to wrong, but I think yours looks fine. The one thing I'd say is maybe hand stitch that back seam. I like the way it looks, even if I see mine has a gap now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Wednesday at 10:41 PM 16 minutes ago, AlZilla said: NoYes, the top is supposed to be right side to wrong, but I think yours looks fine. The one thing I'd say is maybe hand stitch that back seam. I like the way it looks, even if I see mine has a gap now. Yes it did call for the baseball stitch on the back. I won't lie, I was just being lazy on the back seam. Also I think I used way too heavy of leather, it is is 6oz Seidel Crazy Horse. I am going to try & make a better hat this week by modifying the pattern for more seam allowance. That way it will be easier to machine sew. Or at least I am hoping so. Thanks for sharing your hat. It looks nice. Almost looks like a DieselPunk hat. Thanks for the feed back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselTech Report post Posted Wednesday at 10:47 PM I did get around to beveling the top edge & got it painted. Since it is a heat able edge paint I might hit it with my heated edge machine later tonight. Looks alot better now I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlZilla Report post Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM 15 minutes ago, DieselTech said: Also I think I used way too heavy of leather, it is is 6oz I've used 2/3 up to 5/6. 2/3 is plenty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites