Members Cumberland Highpower Posted January 17 Members Report Posted January 17 Is anyone familiar of a mid size machine that can take a 135x16/17 needle with a jump foot and needle feed? I'm thinking I'd like to have one for some really small fine work (don't want a wheel presser). Just a jump foot (a real jump foot) and needle feed only. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted January 17 Moderator Report Posted January 17 I had one in the mid 1980s. It was a Singer 31-something. It had a spring loaded jump foot. I used it to sew leather bests and lined belts with #69 or 92 binded thread. Quote
CowboyBob Posted January 18 Report Posted January 18 (edited) 15 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: I had one in the mid 1980s. It was a Singer 31-something. It had a spring loaded jump foot. I used it to sew leather bests and lined belts with #69 or 92 binded thread. Yes,31-19,31-47,331K5 & 331K105,Singer 16-41-88 & 188 & short arm 44-9 Edited January 18 by CowboyBob Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted January 18 Moderator Report Posted January 18 4 hours ago, CowboyBob said: Yes,31-19,31-47,331K5 & 331K105,Singer 16-41-88 & 188 & short arm 44-9 Thanks, Bob. I remember now. It was a 31-19. It was many many moons ago! Quote
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted January 18 Author Members Report Posted January 18 (edited) Thanks for the replies men Looks like the 44-9 is pretty close. I'm dreaming of something like a downscaled Ferdinand 900B that takes a 135x16 needle. Could be cyl or post bed. Edited January 18 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
Members Michiel Posted January 19 Members Report Posted January 19 (edited) In your OP You asked for needle-feed. i doubt if these machines have needle feed. i might be wrong but I don’nt think i have ever seen the combination jump foot (with a spring) and needle feed…. Edited January 19 by Michiel Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 19 Members Report Posted January 19 wondering why you are focused on a jump foot. Why not triple feed like the Singer 111W156 / 111G156, Juki 563 or similar as Pfaff 145 / 545 Adler 67, 167, 267 and so forth... Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted January 19 Moderator Report Posted January 19 @Cumberland Highpower I just remembered about another machine that had a jump foot AND needle feed. It was called the Number 9. It disappeared in the mid 20th Century, then was reborn as the Luberto Classic. This then disappeared about 10 years ago. These were heavy duty harness stitchers, not well suited to delicate work. Both used a really long needle system that could deflect in the thinner sizes (for thinner thread). Quote
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted January 19 Author Members Report Posted January 19 (edited) 10 hours ago, Constabulary said: wondering why you are focused on a jump foot. Why not triple feed like the Singer 111W156 / 111G156, Juki 563 or similar as Pfaff 145 / 545 Adler 67, 167, 267 and so forth... Well, I have Seikos, Consews, Adlers, Brothers and a Nakajima that all take the 135x needle system. Half of those are triple feed. A jump foot can have the same external "footprint" of a triple feed inner and outer foot set, yet have over twice the actual surface area of either individual foot to spread pressure out on the work. If I had needle feed and a jump foot, I could just use a needle plate with a slot and eliminate the feed dog. It's just something I'd like to have. Not a necessity. Why not? Looks like the 44-9 isn't a needle feed after all. just looked it up. Edited January 19 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted January 19 Author Members Report Posted January 19 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wizcrafts said: @Cumberland Highpower I just remembered about another machine that had a jump foot AND needle feed. It was called the Number 9. It disappeared in the mid 20th Century, then was reborn as the Luberto Classic. This then disappeared about 10 years ago. These were heavy duty harness stitchers, not well suited to delicate work. Both used a really long needle system that could deflect in the thinner sizes (for thinner thread). I had 2 of those in the Classic version. They were ok/decent machines, but slow. I broke more needles on them than anything else. 13 hours ago, Michiel said: In your OP You asked for needle-feed. i doubt if these machines have needle feed. i might be wrong but I don’nt think i have ever seen the combination jump foot (with a spring) and needle feed…. What do you mean jump foot with a spring? Edited January 19 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 20 Members Report Posted January 20 okay got you - so I think a Singer 78 / CONSEW 28 could be a choice. They have no feed dog and a slotted needle plate + needle feed but it is not jump foot machine. Feet work as on triple feed machines. So just a suggestion. But parts & feet are rather hard to find. Quote
Members Michiel Posted January 20 Members Report Posted January 20 9 hours ago, Cumberland Highpower said: What do you mean jump foot with a spring? Some older machines had their outer presserfoot moving back by the force of a spring Quote
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted January 20 Author Members Report Posted January 20 (edited) 7 hours ago, Constabulary said: okay got you - so I think a Singer 78 / CONSEW 28 could be a choice. They have no feed dog and a slotted needle plate + needle feed but it is not jump foot machine. Feet work as on triple feed machines. So just a suggestion. But parts & feet are rather hard to find. I kinda like the sound of this one. I haven't seen one in person, but sounds like it could be a good model for a little modification? The name Consew makes it sound 50 years newer! Edited January 20 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
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