figthnbullrider Report post Posted February 8, 2009 i made a very nice tuckable conciled carry for my bersa 380 thanks to the help of the members of this forem. now it is my girlfriends dads birthday and he just got a new taurus 1911 and wants a tuckable that also has room for an extra magazine. im not sure if i can keep the clip that holds it to his belt in the same place with the extra magazine on the side or if i need a second clip to hold it to his belt better. any thoughts would be great Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBOGO Report post Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) If I read that correctly, you are asking about an extra mag pouch attached to the holster (IWB, inside the waist band?), attached by a clip? I don't want to sound preachy/tactical, but if it hits the fan and 7 or 8 rounds dont solve the problem, or there is a malfunction and an immediate action mag change needs to happen, the strong side hand will be occupied with the pistol. Reaching with the weak hand accross the body with the weak hand is unnessary fine moter skill movement. The accepted method is carrying reloads on the weak side. The 1911's, even the alloy frame models are plenty heavy , my vote is for a strong side holster (unless he spends most of his time seated, then crossdraw) with a weakside mag pouch, or mag pouch with a flashlight (always a good gift idea). When I first started carrying (15ish years ago) I had bought a name brand clip holster/mag pouch combo, no better feeling when practicing drawing from concealment and finding out that that rig was not worth betting your life on. But better finding out that way what works. Edited February 8, 2009 by MBOGO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted February 9, 2009 I agree that spare mags should be on the weak side. An alternative would be to make the spare pouch a cross draw, which I could see working well. I don't see it working well to have holster and spare pouch as one unit. This is, of course, providing that he has two working hands. If he's down to one hand, then yeah, I can see cradling the pistol with the weak side arm and reloading from strong side. All the tacti-cool holsters that have a spare mag on the front of the holster (top of the slide) are more for show than anything else...specifically, see how many swat officers use the $15 dollar gun-show-special holsters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twosons Report post Posted February 9, 2009 If I read that correctly, you are asking about an extra mag pouch attached to the holster (IWB, inside the waist band?), attached by a clip? I don't want to sound preachy/tactical, but if it hits the fan and 7 or 8 rounds dont solve the problem, or there is a malfunction and an immediate action mag change needs to happen, the strong side hand will be occupied with the pistol. Reaching with the weak hand accross the body with the weak hand is unnessary fine moter skill movement. The accepted method is carrying reloads on the weak side. The 1911's, even the alloy frame models are plenty heavy , my vote is for a strong side holster (unless he spends most of his time seated, then crossdraw) with a weakside mag pouch, or mag pouch with a flashlight (always a good gift idea).When I first started carrying (15ish years ago) I had bought a name brand clip holster/mag pouch combo, no better feeling when practicing drawing from concealment and finding out that that rig was not worth betting your life on. But better finding out that way what works. I've been carrying for quite a few years now and I find the above advice quite sound. Check how LE carries and check your local IDPA/IPSC style competitions. You won't find terribly many folks carrying in that manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
figthnbullrider Report post Posted February 9, 2009 thanks for the replys guys. to be more clear I am not talking about the regular IWB because i have not found a way for someone who tucks in their shirt to properly hide this and we always have our shirt tucked in. if this is possible to tuck in with this holster i would love it if someone would show me a picture. the tuckable holsters i have made are always for the small of the back because it shows the least bump of the belt line in this spot. thanks again for the advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creed Report post Posted February 9, 2009 thanks for the replys guys. to be more clear I am not talking about the regular IWB because i have not found a way for someone who tucks in their shirt to properly hide this and we always have our shirt tucked in. if this is possible to tuck in with this holster i would love it if someone would show me a picture. the tuckable holsters i have made are always for the small of the back because it shows the least bump of the belt line in this spot. thanks again for the advice. Any pictures of your current tuckable for the bersa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drac Report post Posted February 9, 2009 take a look at http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/ to get a good idea for tuckable holsters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Tuckable isn't all that hard- you just have to make a gap for the shirt to fill. The easiest way to do it is make splits next to the body of the pistol. Effectively, the holster is attached to the 'wings' only at the bottom. Now, making a tuckable that conceals and carries well.....that's where the skill comes in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted February 13, 2009 Tuckable isn't all that hard- you just have to make a gap for the shirt to fill. The easiest way to do it is make splits next to the body of the pistol. Effectively, the holster is attached to the 'wings' only at the bottom.Now, making a tuckable that conceals and carries well.....that's where the skill comes in. This is my design that I use, . . . and with just a little blousing, . . . it is virtually impossible to detect that I'm carrying, . . . and you see my weapon, . . . full size 1911. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creed Report post Posted February 14, 2009 This is my design that I use, . . . and with just a little blousing, . . . it is virtually impossible to detect that I'm carrying, . . . and you see my weapon, . . . full size 1911.May God bless, Dwight Very nice holster Dwight. Twin Oaks, I was asking more specifically for pictures of the holster of the Bersa. I just recently picked up a FEG PA63 which is a Hungarian knock off of a PPK much like the bersa. I'm getting it ready for CCW and was looking for ideas for holsters for it, I built one for my 1911, its just a little too big for sitting in my office chair all day. Thanks, Justin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) Very nice holster Dwight.Twin Oaks, I was asking more specifically for pictures of the holster of the Bersa. I just recently picked up a FEG PA63 which is a Hungarian knock off of a PPK much like the bersa. I'm getting it ready for CCW and was looking for ideas for holsters for it, I built one for my 1911, its just a little too big for sitting in my office chair all day. Thanks, Justin Justin, . . . thank you for the good words, . . . the one just like it for a Bersa Thunder is smaller, and does all the same good things. There are actually 4 pieces of leather there on that particular holster(other than the loops), . . . but it rides high and flat, . . . so even all the sewing and skiving makes it worth it when it is done. I have tried several other holsters, . . . but this is the design that is THE most comfortable for me, . . . worn mostly dead on 3:00. May God bless, Dwight Edited February 14, 2009 by Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRB Report post Posted February 14, 2009 I think the key for tuckable is attaching the belt loops/clips near the middle to bottom of the holster to allow the shirt to go between the holster & loops/clips. BTW, +1 on the extra clip being on the strong side. It's better to have it where it is quicker & easier to get to w/the weak side hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites