Members adaman04 Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 I went to Tandy this past weekend and got a 7 SPI overstitch wheel because that's what most of my factory holsters appeared to be. (Duh, idiot, they're all machine sewn.) I came home to practice some stitching and quickly decided 7 SPI might have been too tight for a rookie. In hindsight I think I should have bought the one with 5, 6 and 7 SPI wheels. I think it would look really nice at 7 SPI but obviously taking time awling the holes is key for appearance. What are you handstitchers using? Should I switch to a larger stitch? Quote
Members pintail55 Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 I use the 6spi on my hand stiched holsters. I think if I had to do over though I would have gotten the 5spi. Quote
Members leatherjunkie Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 i use the 6 overstitch wheel for all my hand sewing jobs. works just fine for me. also gouge the stitch line 3/16" in from the edge when i handstitch my projects. but when you wetmould a project and use the nails to hold project while moulding i line my stitching line up with the nail holes so i wont have any extra holes Quote keep it in the 10 range or at least hit the steel.
Members dickf Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 6 spi here. How does one use nails to wet mold? Quote US GUNLEATHER www.usgunleather.com twitter.com/usgunleather facebook.com/USGUNLEATHER
Contributing Member Jordan Posted March 17, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted March 17, 2009 The most common mentioned in the books I have read is 6 per inch. Seems to be a good look on most of the items I have hand stitched. I do get tired of punching all those holes on larger projects though. Quote
Members ydduit Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 6spi as well for hand stitching... Quote
BruceGibson Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Five or six is fine. If I were hand-stitching, I'd go with six. Quote "Don't squat with your spurs on." www.GibsonLeather.com
Members leatherjunkie Posted March 18, 2009 Members Report Posted March 18, 2009 6 spi here. How does one use nails to wet mold? i use the nails to secure the leather down to a board while wet moulding. this is for when you are moulding leather around a folding knife or clip for a gun. soak leather in luke warm water for about 20 mins. pull out of water let sit for about 10 mins. place leather over the gun clip/mag and then start pushing the leather down to the board around the clip/mag, securing it to board with nails. i use shoe nails. rdb posted a pic of some leather wet formed / molded leather with nails here http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=15226 Quote keep it in the 10 range or at least hit the steel.
Members adaman04 Posted March 18, 2009 Author Members Report Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) Yeah that's about what I figured. The 5 looked huge at the time. I figured if I got one I would just stick with it for most all projects. Well, true, but I should have gotten a larger stitch. Not the first time I've had buyers remourse. ETA, I just got a 6 SPI off ebay for 10 bucks. Might as well get the one I'll be happier with. I'll keep the 7 around for when my stitching skills improve or I need something extra stout. My leather should arrive tomorrow and I've got projects on the brain! Edited March 18, 2009 by adaman04 Quote
Lobo Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 As already noted, 5 or 6 stitches per inch works well with most projects. I will add one consideration, and that is the danger of stitches pulling through the leather, especially during wet forming. A lot of stretching goes on during the forming process, and this can cause the thread to cut through the leather between stitch holes. The closer the stitch holes are, the more danger there is of this occuring. I have switched over to machine sewing (and my machine is set at 6 per inch), but if I were hand-sewing now I think I would stick with 5 or 6 stitches per inch. Quote Lobo Gun Leather serious equipment for serious business, since 1972 www.lobogunleather.com
Billsotx Posted March 18, 2009 Report Posted March 18, 2009 Seven is all I've even used on gun leather - but I'm old fashioned. Quote
Moderator Art Posted March 18, 2009 Moderator Report Posted March 18, 2009 I only have a 6 overstitch wheel, guess that answers that. When I see some of the English tack, I can only think, someone needs a life or a machine or both. Art I went to Tandy this past weekend and got a 7 SPI overstitch wheel because that's what most of my factory holsters appeared to be. (Duh, idiot, they're all machine sewn.) I came home to practice some stitching and quickly decided 7 SPI might have been too tight for a rookie. In hindsight I think I should have bought the one with 5, 6 and 7 SPI wheels. I think it would look really nice at 7 SPI but obviously taking time awling the holes is key for appearance. What are you handstitchers using? Should I switch to a larger stitch? Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Tac Posted March 19, 2009 Members Report Posted March 19, 2009 6 spi for my hand sewn items.... Quote -Tac "Well, I guess we did our good deed for the day Mayor"-Wyatt Earp "Tombstone"
Members woodandsteel Posted August 13, 2011 Members Report Posted August 13, 2011 I've got a 5 and a 6 for my handstitched holsters. Lately I'm using the 5, but I might go back to the 6. Quote
Members Blackey Cole Posted August 14, 2011 Members Report Posted August 14, 2011 G-o back to Tandy and get these three Diamond Hole Punches they are designed for sewing or stiching leather. The saingle pounch is 8065-00, the 4 prong 3/32" spacing is 8066-00 and the one you will use the most is the 4 prong 1/8" spacing is 8067-00. I tried using the round or scratch awl, the diamond awl, 1/16" drills, and the 4 prong stiching punch is the fastest and best way for most flat things I have found. I wish I could mount it in a press and lower it somehow for better results than hitting it with a hammer but with the limited space I have that will not be happening. Otherwise I use a 5 spi wheel. The three in one isn't as good as the individual wheels. Quote
Members Nooj Posted August 14, 2011 Members Report Posted August 14, 2011 I don't really use a stitch marker, I just eyeball it stitch by stitch as I go. I actually had no idea how many stitches per inch I was doing until just now- I measured one of my recent holsters. Turns out I'm right at 6 spi. It seems 6 is the magic number for most. But, nothing wrong with going tighter or wider. Nooj Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted August 14, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted August 14, 2011 It's a 2 year old thead.....I don't think the OP is still looking for answers. Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members rickeyfro Posted August 14, 2011 Members Report Posted August 14, 2011 You may want to try the wet molding without the nails, it'll keep the extra holes out of the picture, I wet mold all my holsters and have never nailed them down. Rick i use the nails to secure the leather down to a board while wet moulding. this is for when you are moulding leather around a folding knife or clip for a gun. soak leather in luke warm water for about 20 mins. pull out of water let sit for about 10 mins. place leather over the gun clip/mag and then start pushing the leather down to the board around the clip/mag, securing it to board with nails. i use shoe nails. rdb posted a pic of some leather wet formed / molded leather with nails here http://leatherworker...showtopic=15226 Quote
Members woodandsteel Posted August 14, 2011 Members Report Posted August 14, 2011 It's a 2 year old thead.....I don't think the OP is still looking for answers. Didn't see that! Sorry to resurrect the thread. Quote
Members Nooj Posted August 14, 2011 Members Report Posted August 14, 2011 Lol. When it got bumped to the front of the line I just assumed it was new. If he's still waiting on replies about this, he's been on hold for quite a while! Nooj Quote
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