Stitching question

[ruthless]

I presume the stitching on these collars is done by hand ...

http://leerburg.com/flatleathercollar.htm

Could you achieve the same finish with a sewing machine? If so, what kind?

[Rawhide]

I presume the stitching on these collars is done by hand ...

http://leerburg.com/flatleathercollar.htm

Could you achieve the same finish with a sewing machine? If so, what kind?

They look machine sewn. There are many machines that can handle such a job. Although latigo is strong, it's fairly soft to a sewing machine. Some sewing machines are some old singers, Artisan, Cowboy, Cobra, adler...just to name a few names. Art might chime in on this one, he's a sewing machine expert.

[barra]

Ruthless. Here are the signs that tell me they are machine sewn.

1. Angle of the stitching ie right angles to the edge.

2. where the stitching starts and ends ie the little bit of thread poking out where the thread has been cut off at the end of the job.

3. Round holes made by the needle.

4. Sewing machine track marks left from the presser foot.

5. On a few places you can see where the lock stitch has formed the knot closer to the top (tensions).

Barra

[mulefool]

I believe it is machine stitched, too. I wonder why they didn't burn the thread where they ended. It seems like it would look cleaner and hold better.

[ruthless]

Ok, thanks. Anyone know if I could get that kind of stitching with a Tippman?

[Luke Hatley]

I have the cast iorn model

and i get a perfect stich with Latigo Leather

or thick Elk. Few problems with Veg Tan but it still sewed ok.

I have a Sew Mo now. Like an Adler. 205-370

[ryano]

He must not have had any matches! lol They are not aloud to use lighters.

Edited March 26, 2009 by ryano

[DaveT]

Machine sewn without a doubt. The thread was cut with a pencil type soldering iron. It melts the end of the thread and forms that little mushroom head on it. Very distinctive if you've done it.

A couple observations of these collars.

1. They did not edge bevel or finish the edges. Very hard on the dog's neck (I have dogs too.) edge the straps before assembly and it's easy to do (Don't edge the flesh side where you're folding over) and rub with paraffin wax to slick and seal.

2. The straps where run through a mechanical roller to put the bead lines on them. Quick and easy, just watch your hands!

Dave T

[ruthless]

I have the cast iorn model

and i get a perfect stich with Latigo Leather

or thick Elk. Few problems with Veg Tan but it still sewed ok.

I have a Sew Mo now. Like an Adler. 205-370

I'd want to be able to sew veg tan, bridle and latigo. I've no idea what machine to get. I'm getting really frustrated. I need a mentor!

[ruthless]

1. They did not edge bevel or finish the edges. Very hard on the dog's neck (I have dogs too.) edge the straps before assembly and it's easy to do (Don't edge the flesh side where you're folding over) and rub with paraffin wax to slick and seal.

Is Latigo not soft enough to not need edging?