Roger Report post Posted March 10, 2008 anyone ever seen this one? i was asked to do a seat like this and asked about getting as couple other shots of the lace. any ideas?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted March 10, 2008 also looking at this thing... the tooling is not very deep. i am wondering if the cover is wraped around the bottom and the edge treatment is some sore of leather covered rope welting? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Hatley Report post Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) anyone ever seen this one?i was asked to do a seat like this and asked about getting as couple other shots of the lace. any ideas?? Post it for the Saddle Makers and they will tell you about the Rolled Edge on a Cantel Edited March 10, 2008 by Luke Hatley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted March 10, 2008 i have seen how that was done somewhere but this looks a bit different. almost looks like lace wraped around rope and secured somehow. i just got the request last night and will post it in the saddle section once i find out if he can get me some more pics. thanks luke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tazzmann Report post Posted March 10, 2008 I might be mistaken, but that looks like a Rope Edge Lace technique and basically, the lace is cut from the same material as the main part and skived to about half thickness. Then slits are cut around the outside of the main piece and a cord is placed along the edge. The lace is then wrapped around it and through the slits. I think I came across this in one of my older lacing books. I can check when I get home, if you would like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drac Report post Posted March 10, 2008 if you look closely, you can see that the stitch spacing lines up with the "dips", and there's thread ran at an angle to create the dips. do a saddle stitch but leave an extra 3/8"-1/2" on the edge to create the rope effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) I might be mistaken, but that looks like a Rope Edge Lace technique and basically, the lace is cut from the same material as the main part and skived to about half thickness. Then slits are cut around the outside of the main piece and a cord is placed along the edge. The lace is then wrapped around it and through the slits. I think I came across this in one of my older lacing books. I can check when I get home, if you would like. please look it up for me! i would think slits that tight together would be an issue if you look closely, you can see that the stitch spacing lines up with the "dips", and there's thread ran at an angle to create the dips. do a saddle stitch but leave an extra 3/8"-1/2" on the edge to create the rope effect. drac.. i'm looking at it on a 22" monitor and what isee is a bit of space between each loop. hopefully the guy can get me a couple more shots of it. Edited March 10, 2008 by beezachoppa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tazzmann Report post Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) After bringing it up in Photoshop, zooming in to 200%, and looking at the front edge, it looks like drac may be correct on this one, it does look like it is stitched and not laced. It looks like it is widely spaced stitches, with one part of the stitch going at an angle to create the rope effect. On the front it almost looks like two pieces of leather. You can just see the flesh side of the bottom piece sticking out.Each stitch looks like a 7 with the top of the 7 along the seat itself and then the leg of the 7 is what makes the rope look. I would like to play with this on a piece of leather and see if I can duplicate it. It looks interesting. Edited March 10, 2008 by tazzmann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted March 10, 2008 i zoomed way in and now is see it also! you are correct drac! it shows up much better on the nose of the seat. just kinda whip stitched. pretty cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duke Report post Posted March 10, 2008 looks very time consuming to me. I know that when saddle makers do it on a saddle cantle, they use rawhide usually, and then a metal band to help it hold shape and to accent it.the look on this seat is the same, but with leather and no band. im impressed. as much time as the maker has into this seat, he probably charged a bundle. love the flames too.what is the purpose of the braiding on the top front of the seat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted March 10, 2008 i would guess every couple of stitches he looped around the outside and had the leather damp to get it to pull in like that. the seat i just completed was saddle stitched and it took me a good six hours to sew. the lacing on the front is just decritive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anne newkold Report post Posted March 10, 2008 looks very much like the rolled rope edge from the dvd by George Hurst available at Hide Crafter's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
