Members tat2 Posted June 3, 2009 Members Report Posted June 3, 2009 First attempt in making an electricians tool pouch. Looks easy but a lot of varibles to look at when constructing especially with rivets. I started out banging in splash rivets by hand. Soon noticing there would be areas I could not bang them in. Since I want to make more in the future I went out a bought what I think is a late 18th early 19th century solid cast iron Rivet kick press. It works like a charm offering more than a mallet and splash tool can offer. I added one coat of neetsfoot oil and two coats of silicone Saddle oil to darken and repel from rain. Again first attempt. I welcome all feedback! Stephen www.greenmanleather.ca Quote "You are responsible for the energy which you bring into THIS space." Stephen O'Ceallaigh 001-647-637-5229 http://greenmanleather.ca sales@greenmanleather.ca
qarawol Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Hi tat2, Nice job on your first attempt. I like the decor rivets you used. My first one too was only riveted and then I went to sew and rivet then to only sew. Are you an electrician by trade or you made this for others? I am an electrician by trade and still hard at it. I now have to post my pics of my holster for my "electricians" tools which I now call my tool system. You made yours on your own and you can claim that yet you kept the basic design of a tool pouch. If this is for you, then may I suggest you REALLY think on how you work and live with that pouch and design one for you AND ONLY YOU. That is what I did. A SUPER CUSTOM leather tool system. Not only did I think out of the box, I got into my car then got on 3 buses a boat and a camel to get away from that box. It took me five years to determine what tools were "really needed" on hand for the type of electrical work I do and it went from there. If you made it for others then disregard. Please don't take it wrong, the tool pouch is nice yet that style no longer works for me. One ALWAYS has to adapt to what the tool pouch has to offer. You have to knowledge to change that and have the tool pouch do what you want it to. I had to conjure one up and it took three tries to get it just right and I completed it back in Nov 1995. Njoy... Edited June 3, 2009 by qarawol Quote 'qarawol' = "Quality And Reliability, A Way Of Life..."
Members SmilinJim Posted June 3, 2009 Members Report Posted June 3, 2009 Great job on the pouch. Sturdy and functional. But if you are like the rest of us there will always something you think will be better. If it works for you then keep the design. I like it but I'm not an electrician, I'm a surveyor and my pouches probably wouldn't work for you. But a question, describe splash rivets, first time I've heard the term. I think I know what they are but not sure. Used a lot on commercial pouches that I'm familiar with but don't know where to get them. Keep up the good work. And keep posting, like to see other real world projects from workin folks. Keep on Smilin Jim Quote
Members SteveBrambley Posted June 3, 2009 Members Report Posted June 3, 2009 Nice solid and simple design, should last quite a while! I think the rivets you are using are what are known as 'Star' rivets, here in the UK. They were often used both with and without a washer on the back. I don't think that your rivet setting machine can be quite as old as you think, I would guess closer to late 19th early 20th century, or possibly more recent still. you can use these machines to set 'bifurcated' rivets as well as 'Star' rivets. I use two very similar machines to yours, (The machines on the extreme right and the left centre, in the photo below) but only with the 'bifurcated' type, normally, with a special 'cap' on the back. These, like the 'Star' rivets, are self-piercing, that is, you don't need to punch a hole first. Steve Quote
rhall Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 Good jod Stephen,nice to see that new machine working for you,I hope to get the junker working soon ,but I need thread ,not sure what size I need! Quote
Henry Posted June 3, 2009 Report Posted June 3, 2009 Steve, Quick question for you, what is that gray machine in the foreground? Is it a sewing machine or some kind of other fastening machine. Whatever it is can you post some pictures of it as I am sure it would be of interest to other viewers. Cheers, Henry (a close neighbour and advisor of the other Stephen above!) Quote
Members SteveBrambley Posted June 4, 2009 Members Report Posted June 4, 2009 Steve,Quick question for you, what is that gray machine in the foreground? Is it a sewing machine or some kind of other fastening machine. Whatever it is can you post some pictures of it as I am sure it would be of interest to other viewers. Cheers, Henry (a close neighbour and advisor of the other Stephen above!) Hi Henry, No, it's not a sewing machine it's an 'Epoch' automatic, power operated, eyelet setting machine, made by the British United Shoe Machinery Company. It was designed to punch a hole and then set the eyelet in a single operation, which it would continue to do, as long as the control pedal is held down! This example is set up with a 'blind' punch as the holes are, generally, cut out during the 'clicking' operation. I have posted pictures of this machine previously, however, here are some more for you. Steve Quote
Members Vikti Posted June 4, 2009 Members Report Posted June 4, 2009 Hi tat2,Nice job on your first attempt. I like the decor rivets you used. My first one too was only riveted and then I went to sew and rivet then to only sew. Are you an electrician by trade or you made this for others? I am an electrician by trade and still hard at it. I now have to post my pics of my holster for my "electricians" tools which I now call my tool system. You made yours on your own and you can claim that yet you kept the basic design of a tool pouch. If this is for you, then may I suggest you REALLY think on how you work and live with that pouch and design one for you AND ONLY YOU. That is what I did. A SUPER CUSTOM leather tool system. Not only did I think out of the box, I got into my car then got on 3 buses a boat and a camel to get away from that box. It took me five years to determine what tools were "really needed" on hand for the type of electrical work I do and it went from there. If you made it for others then disregard. Please don't take it wrong, the tool pouch is nice yet that style no longer works for me. One ALWAYS has to adapt to what the tool pouch has to offer. You have to knowledge to change that and have the tool pouch do what you want it to. I had to conjure one up and it took three tries to get it just right and I completed it back in Nov 1995. Njoy... Hey sparky, Do you have any pics you can share that might give me any ideas? I've gone through 3 tool belts in 3 years because they didn't meet my needs (didn't hold the weight I needed to carry, didn't distribute the weight appropriately, etc.). I'm currently working on making a rig of my own. I'm working out of my Greenlee tool bag and my hip pockets right now. To Tat2 The only thing I could recommend to improve it is to add a carry chain for holding electrical tape. Other than that, keep it up. Damon Quote
qarawol Posted June 5, 2009 Report Posted June 5, 2009 (edited) Hey sparky, Do you have any pics you can share that might give me any ideas? I've gone through 3 tool belts in 3 years because they didn't meet my needs (didn't hold the weight I needed to carry, didn't distribute the weight appropriately, etc.). I'm currently working on making a rig of my own. I'm working out of my Greenlee tool bag and my hip pockets right now. Damon I'll post pics when I get my photobucket pics straight. I posted them before on other forums and I changed a few things on photobucket and it screwed them up. Let me say that my tool system (pouch) is like no other. The backing of the main section is a mere 7" x 4-1/4" (178mm x 108mm) and it holds the following tools... three screwdrivers, lineman pliers, diagonal cutters, needle nose pliers, arc joint pliers, wire strippers, electrical tape and a utility knife. Think about that for a moment! All those 10 tools on a backing about the size of your hand. also... a) it all fits in a plain jane Samsonite attaché case yet I do wear it when I take it out of the case. comes apart in TWO sections for there are times when I don't need to carry all the tools. c) no belt needed to secure to the body yet it does help - secured to the body like no other tool pouch (no suspenders, I don't like them) d) can be released from the body in one second e) I can look, with one glance, and notice immediately what tool is missing f) it can be inverted or thrown on a roof WITHOUT ANY tools falling out. g) I can grab the right tool needed without looking h) all tools made by Snap-On i) other added unique features, too many to list on my tool system I'll let you ponder on that for a spell while I fix my pics. It also holds, a ratchet set (1/4"-5/8") with extensions, allen wrenches (1/16"-3/8"), open end and box end rathcet wrenches, screw starters, flashlight and nut drivers. All those tools listed above AND the complete leather pouch that holds everything will fit in a carpenters nail bag while all tools are secured in their place on the tool system. Now think about that! Njoy... *edit* spelling Edited June 5, 2009 by qarawol Quote 'qarawol' = "Quality And Reliability, A Way Of Life..."
Members Vikti Posted June 5, 2009 Members Report Posted June 5, 2009 f) it can be inverted or thrown on a roof WITHOUT ANY tools falling out. I bet that's real handy when you have to play attic/sewer rat and have to constantly crawl over and around all sorts of stuff. Can't wait to see it. Quote
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