Members manfrommuc Posted September 3, 2009 Members Report Posted September 3, 2009 @Marlon it is a good tip but how get the leather and the 'illustration board'...apart (off) ?? after I finish tooling the fleshside is full of glue and this 'illustration board'...?? greetings Johann Quote keep the rubberside down http://www.harleyluja.de
Mike Craw Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 I'm glad I read all the way down to the last post, Johann! I had exactly the same question after reading the first couple of posts and I would have asked the same question. I don't have any trouble gettin it ON the board, but all the stretch I avoided by using the board seems to happen getting it OFF the board. Mike Quote My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. Harry S. Truman
Russ Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 If you use rubber cement (NOT contact cement) it peels off pretty easy. Just make sure you don't stretch the leather when you are removing the board...pull on the board, not the leather. Russ I'm glad I read all the way down to the last post, Johann! I had exactly the same question after reading the first couple of posts and I would have asked the same question. I don't have any trouble gettin it ON the board, but all the stretch I avoided by using the board seems to happen getting it OFF the board. Mike Quote
Mike Craw Posted September 3, 2009 Report Posted September 3, 2009 Thanks Russ! Is the illustration board good for anything after that, or is this a "one-shot" deal? Mike Quote My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. Harry S. Truman
Members TTcustom Posted September 4, 2009 Members Report Posted September 4, 2009 Aha, okay...I´m going to try this. Thank´s for posting. Does anyone of the german Users know what this "illustration board" is in german? Or were I can get it? Boesner in Munchen Weißer Grafik-, Reinzeichnungs- und Präsentationskarton, Stärke 1,4 mm,Format 50 x 70 cm. Sehr gute Planlage, spezialgeleimt, glatt,radierfest, klebebandfest. Sehr gut geeignet für Tusche, Bleistift,Marker und Airbrush. Der Karton lässt sich auch gut alsPassepartoutkarton einsetzen. I think this is the same as the Crescent brand hot pressed #202 illustration board. There was a artist supply store in Rosenheimer Platz also that had it but that was a long time ago that I was there. Hoped this helped. I am not sure if this is an appropriate thing but I will admit that I use the blue painters tape on the back of my leather and then glue it down. Then the glue comes off when I pull the tape off the leather. Don't use the regular masking tape though ( I learned! ) it doesn't come free as well as the blue stuff. Quote I am fifty years old and I have always lived in freedom; let me end my life free; when I am dead let this be said of me: 'He belonged to no school, to no institution, to no academy, least of all to any régime except the régime of liberty.' "What we need is more cowbell!"
Members manfrommuc Posted September 4, 2009 Members Report Posted September 4, 2009 Boesner in Munchen Weißer Grafik-, Reinzeichnungs- und Präsentationskarton, Stärke 1,4 mm,Format 50 x 70 cm. Sehr gute Planlage, spezialgeleimt, glatt,radierfest, klebebandfest. Sehr gut geeignet für Tusche, Bleistift,Marker und Airbrush. Der Karton lässt sich auch gut alsPassepartoutkarton einsetzen. I think this is the same as the Crescent brand hot pressed #202 illustration board. There was a artist supply store in Rosenheimer Platz also that had it but that was a long time ago that I was there. Hoped this helped. I am not sure if this is an appropriate thing but I will admit that I use the blue painters tape on the back of my leather and then glue it down. Then the glue comes off when I pull the tape off the leather. Don't use the regular masking tape though ( I learned! ) it doesn't come free as well as the blue stuff. here talks an old munichknower...... boesner is a very good selected shop for all needs about art.... but he is very expensive and the shop in the rosenheimerstrasse ist still there.... greez johann Quote keep the rubberside down http://www.harleyluja.de
Members rickeyfro Posted September 4, 2009 Members Report Posted September 4, 2009 I cant resist any longer, Ive started to post this question so many times but always balked, but Ive just got to ask, why is it that Peter only contributes to this Forum through Rawhide? Im not trying to offend anyone, my curiosity has just gotten the best of me, and this just seems kinda strange Quote
Members Rawhide Posted September 4, 2009 Author Members Report Posted September 4, 2009 @Marlon it is a good tip but how get the leather and the 'illustration board'...apart (off) ?? after I finish tooling the fleshside is full of glue and this 'illustration board'...?? greetings Johann I've been a bit busy lately so sorry for the late replies, but here goes. Johann, if you apply the rubber cement to the board only, it will be enough to stick well, yet easy to peel off. I try to peel the board from the leather, not the leather from the board. Thanks Russ! Is the illustration board good for anything after that, or is this a "one-shot" deal? Mike Mike, it's usually a one shot deal, I have had success using a board multiple times, but I usually don't try to save it. Boesner in Munchen Weißer Grafik-, Reinzeichnungs- und Präsentationskarton, Stärke 1,4 mm,Format 50 x 70 cm. Sehr gute Planlage, spezialgeleimt, glatt,radierfest, klebebandfest. Sehr gut geeignet für Tusche, Bleistift,Marker und Airbrush. Der Karton lässt sich auch gut alsPassepartoutkarton einsetzen. I think this is the same as the Crescent brand hot pressed #202 illustration board. There was a artist supply store in Rosenheimer Platz also that had it but that was a long time ago that I was there. Hoped this helped. I am not sure if this is an appropriate thing but I will admit that I use the blue painters tape on the back of my leather and then glue it down. Then the glue comes off when I pull the tape off the leather. Don't use the regular masking tape though ( I learned! ) it doesn't come free as well as the blue stuff. TT custom, it is hot press board #201 from Crescent. I don't know the difference in the numbers, I only know which one I use. I cant resist any longer, Ive started to post this question so many times but always balked, but Ive just got to ask, why is it that Peter only contributes to this Forum through Rawhide? Im not trying to offend anyone, my curiosity has just gotten the best of me, and this just seems kinda strange Rickey, It's not an offensive question at all. Peter post to multiple forums, but they are all through email and he can post once to all at the same time. A couple of years ago I asked if I could post some of his work here for LW.net to see. It kind of took root there. I do it because I love his work and don't mind posting for him. He does lurk here every so often and has posted before. It's just a different forum type than he's used to. Hope this answers everyone. If I missed something, let me know and I'll get you an answer. Marlon Quote Marlon
Mike Craw Posted September 4, 2009 Report Posted September 4, 2009 Thanks Marlon! I've never used a backer before. When I started back in 1980, you just wet down a piece of leather and started pounding. In the saddle shop, the leather we use is heavy enough that stretch is not an issue. I'm currently trying to design and build a purse for my sister-in-law in the form of a saddle bag. I got a side of 8-9 oz. Herman Oak from Springfield leather, and I'm thinking that a slight distortion might be an issue as heavily as I'm planning to tool it, so I'll give the illustration board a try. Thanks to you (and to Peter) for the information. Mike Quote My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. Harry S. Truman
Members TTcustom Posted September 4, 2009 Members Report Posted September 4, 2009 Ooops!!! I apparently liked the 2's yes 201 is the same I use. Old boards i use for more permanent patterns after I have drawn them on brown paper they go on illustration board if I plan on making that project again. Heh Grüße Johann! Actually i am an Erdinger by history and Bayerische by heart but out west in the wide open desert physically. Quote I am fifty years old and I have always lived in freedom; let me end my life free; when I am dead let this be said of me: 'He belonged to no school, to no institution, to no academy, least of all to any régime except the régime of liberty.' "What we need is more cowbell!"
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