Members china Posted June 28, 2009 Author Members Report Posted June 28, 2009 Here is the other pic I could not work out how to reduce them, something is not working on my side will have to speak to the guru. Anyway the close up of the post show the roller feed (motorised) the mechanism on the left is a trimmer that cust the Fabric as you sew Quote
Members SteveBrambley Posted June 30, 2009 Members Report Posted June 30, 2009 Interesting looking machine, I've not seen anything quite like that before. What's the function of the mechanism to the right of the post? All of the post machines that I have seen do not have anything like that, just a plain post. I'd have thought that you'd find this machine quite useful, particularly for stitching inside light weight leather bags and such. Steve Quote
Members neelsaddlery Posted July 1, 2009 Members Report Posted July 1, 2009 That is a very inique machine you have there. I have not seen anything like that myself. Singer made so many specialty machines over the years it is mind boggling. You could have a 1 of a kind there, and it might belong in a museum!!!!! Or, it could be a boat anchor -- it is hard to tell!!!! I would say the machine was deifinitely used in either the mocassin, hat, handbag, or other associated business. If you plan to use it for one of these purposes, then I'd say keep it. One thing to consider, however, is that the parts for older Singer specialty machines are rare as hen's teeth. If you do have one of the special variants that Singer made, it may be impossible to get parts for it. Just something to consider for later down the road. Quote Ryan O. Neel Cowboy Sewing Machines Neel's Saddlery and Harness Offices in North Lima Ohio and Toledo Ohio www.cowboysew.com www.neelsaddlery.com toll free: 1-866-507-8926
Members china Posted July 1, 2009 Author Members Report Posted July 1, 2009 Most people who have seen it have not seen one before, Steve the mechanism on the right is a trimmer it has small blade in it and when you click it in place the blade oscilates an trims the material that you are currently stitching, you can trim right up to the stitch line, the blade on the machine is snapped I have a replacement but have not fitted it Quote
Moderator Art Posted July 1, 2009 Moderator Report Posted July 1, 2009 Hi, The 236w, introduced in the 50's I think, was a primary closing machine for shoes. Many of these are still used by custom shoemakers. Parts for these machines are somewhat available. Since both rollers are driven, you might find the belt for the upper one missing (you will have to replace it, well have to is relative, it will run without it, but not as well as with). Both belts might be there, but are old and glazed. In this case, get some of the black belt dressing from the automotive store and use a brush to coat the belts and let the dressing soak in overnight, put as much on as you can. The bobbin cage needs to be removed and everything cleaned out, you will find everything from little lace doilies of thread to broken off needle points. Adjustment for stitch length is a little tricky, there is a manual here: http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/236W.pdf Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members SteveBrambley Posted July 1, 2009 Members Report Posted July 1, 2009 Most people who have seen it have not seen one before, Steve the mechanism on the right is a trimmer it has small blade in it and when you click it in place the blade oscilates an trims the material that you are currently stitching, you can trim right up to the stitch line, the blade on the machine is snapped I have a replacement but have not fitted it Yes of course, that makes perfect sense! I should have guessed! Singer made quite a few types of shoe making machine with built-in trimmers, here's one from an old shoe making book: Steve Quote
Members Rogueshoemaking Posted November 26, 2021 Members Report Posted November 26, 2021 Hello everyone, I have a Singer 236g131 and I am trying to get parts for it, but it seems impossible for this make of specialised model. I need a motor that’s built into the side of the frame, and a control box. the correct serial number for the motor is 713604-002 and the control box serial number is 995536-002 it has a round wheel bottom feed, and a round wheel top feed. I need the motor and control box to feed the top feed. It works ok at the minute, with just the bottom feed, however when you double layer your leather for shoe uppers, it’s slacking on the top stitch. I believe if the top feed wheel was working correctly. The feed would correct the tightness on the stitching on the top. Can anyone help with finding the correct motor and control box. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted November 26, 2021 Members Report Posted November 26, 2021 I don´t think new motor replacements are available anymore. Maybe check with some old school sewing machine dealers they may have some 236´s on their shelves for parts. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members James Roberts Posted November 27, 2021 Members Report Posted November 27, 2021 I sold one of these machines about two years ago in Australia for $1200, without the lining trimmer. Not sure if that helps you make up your mind or not. As far as post machines go, it's a pretty specific use case machine for light weight shoe uppers, with minimal stitch length options, narrow throat etc. If you wanted a post machine for more varied work I'd look for something else. Even certain shoe/boot styles will be difficult to sew with that lining trimmer in the way. I decided to get rid of it before I might have to replace one of the belts driving the feed mechanism. Quote
Members Rogueshoemaking Posted November 29, 2021 Members Report Posted November 29, 2021 Thanks Constabulary, and James. turns out I didn’t need a motor or a control box. The motor is for the lining trimmer. I just needed two belts. the same mechanism that drives the bottom belt, also drives the top belt. Both the top feed roller and bottom feed roller have to turn at the same speed. So it makes sense. So I’ve ordered two new belts. The lining trimmer does look a bit bulky, but the previous owner has removed what he can, and I knew about the small stitch length before I purchased it. I really like the small stitch on a shoe, and I’m looking forward to experimenting with it, hopefully I don’t change my mind and sell it. thanks again… Quote
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