Members jsroye96 Posted July 20, 2009 Members Report Posted July 20, 2009 Hi everyone, I am asking this out of financial desperation. I want to make my own blue guns so I dont have to pay forty five dollars per gun. I dont know how to do this though. Do any of you know how to make your own gun molds? I would like to know how to do this. Thanks. John. Quote
gtwister09 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 John, I don't know about blue guns as to their specific properties but here's a great site that I have used in the past for various castings... Smooth On They have many free How-To Guides here. There are guides to show you how to make a mold and pour a substitute for the real weapon. These will give you an idea of how to do it but be forewarned this is NOT going to meet your financial desperation criteria. It is expensive to get into casting with release agents, molds, material and so forth. Not to mention that experimentaiton is always costly. Regards, Ben Quote
Members jsroye96 Posted July 20, 2009 Author Members Report Posted July 20, 2009 John,I don't know about blue guns as to their specific properties but here's a great site that I have used in the past for various castings... Smooth On They have many free How-To Guides here. There are guides to show you how to make a mold and pour a substitute for the real weapon. These will give you an idea of how to do it but be forewarned this is NOT going to meet your financial desperation criteria. It is expensive to get into casting with release agents, molds, material and so forth. Not to mention that experimentaiton is always costly. Regards, Ben Thanks, that's just what I am looking for. if it's too expensive then I might not do it. It's just something I thought I might try. Quote
gtwister09 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Thanks, that's just what I am looking for. if it's too expensive then I might not do it. It's just something I thought I might try. It never hurts to try something new. Ummmm.... usually it doesn't. Good luck. Regards, Ben Quote
Members Dwight Posted July 20, 2009 Members Report Posted July 20, 2009 Hi everyone, I am asking this out of financial desperation. I want to make my own blue guns so I dont have to pay forty five dollars per gun. I dont know how to do this though. Do any of you know how to make your own gun molds? I would like to know how to do this. Thanks. John. I have not tried this, . . . but plan on doing it some time. Make 2 wooden boxes that have no tops, . . . 2 inches longer, wider, and thicker than your handgun. Fill each box with minimal expanding foam (about $5 for the can) and then cover each full box with a couple layers of saran wrap. Gently lay the handgun down on one box full of foam and press it so that it sinks down about half way, . . . press the other box full of foam down onto the first one so that the edges line up, . . . wrap the boxes with a couple rounds of duct tape, . . . set it up on a shelf, . . . come back tomorrow morning, . . . cut the tape, . . . extract the gun, . . . you have a mold. This is where it gets dicey, . . . I haven't found the hard plastic I would like to have for the actual gun copy, . . . gotta do some research on that, . . . but you need to take some #12 copper wire (it bends easily with pliers) and use them like concrete re-rod to strengthen your gun copy, . . . place them in each half of the mold. Pour each half of the mold up level with the top and allow it to harden, . . . sand the pieces, . . . glue them together, . . . voila, . . . fake gun. Again, . . . I haven't done this, . . . I hope to some day in the near future, . . . but right now it is hay time, . . . mowing time, . . . roof repair time, . . . and I'm helping a buddy put a sump pump into his basement floor. Good luck, may God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members jsroye96 Posted July 20, 2009 Author Members Report Posted July 20, 2009 I have not tried this, . . . but plan on doing it some time.Make 2 wooden boxes that have no tops, . . . 2 inches longer, wider, and thicker than your handgun. Fill each box with minimal expanding foam (about $5 for the can) and then cover each full box with a couple layers of saran wrap. Gently lay the handgun down on one box full of foam and press it so that it sinks down about half way, . . . press the other box full of foam down onto the first one so that the edges line up, . . . wrap the boxes with a couple rounds of duct tape, . . . set it up on a shelf, . . . come back tomorrow morning, . . . cut the tape, . . . extract the gun, . . . you have a mold. This is where it gets dicey, . . . I haven't found the hard plastic I would like to have for the actual gun copy, . . . gotta do some research on that, . . . but you need to take some #12 copper wire (it bends easily with pliers) and use them like concrete re-rod to strengthen your gun copy, . . . place them in each half of the mold. Pour each half of the mold up level with the top and allow it to harden, . . . sand the pieces, . . . glue them together, . . . voila, . . . fake gun. Again, . . . I haven't done this, . . . I hope to some day in the near future, . . . but right now it is hay time, . . . mowing time, . . . roof repair time, . . . and I'm helping a buddy put a sump pump into his basement floor. Good luck, may God bless, Dwight That sounds like it might work. Quote
Members KcKenny Posted July 20, 2009 Members Report Posted July 20, 2009 this might be a silly question, but do you have to mold both sides of the gun? It seems a lot of the holsters I'm seeing on here are a front molded panel stitched to a back flat panel (or just slightly molded). I've seen guys do metal casting using fine wet sand. You would take a wooden box filled with the moist sand, put your gun into it (probably wrapped in something very thin unless you have a Glock which can live through anything), smash the sand in tight around it, then extract it. Then you poor your metal into the cast. You would get a good impression, with a flat back side. The materials and setup for this might be cheaper than doing resin casting. I have no idea if it would work or be applicable, but I'm just spit balling. Maybe there are some casters/smiths in here who have some experience. Either way, sometimes it's much more expensive to get into something like this vs. buying the blur gun unless you're doing a bunch of them. Quote Thanks to all of the artists who are willing to share their experience.
Members cem Posted July 21, 2009 Members Report Posted July 21, 2009 I have not tried this, . . . but plan on doing it some time.Make 2 wooden boxes that have no tops, . . . 2 inches longer, wider, and thicker than your handgun. Fill each box with minimal expanding foam (about $5 for the can) and then cover each full box with a couple layers of saran wrap. Gently lay the handgun down on one box full of foam and press it so that it sinks down about half way, . . . press the other box full of foam down onto the first one so that the edges line up, . . . wrap the boxes with a couple rounds of duct tape, . . . set it up on a shelf, . . . come back tomorrow morning, . . . cut the tape, . . . extract the gun, . . . you have a mold. This is where it gets dicey, . . . I haven't found the hard plastic I would like to have for the actual gun copy, . . . gotta do some research on that, . . . but you need to take some #12 copper wire (it bends easily with pliers) and use them like concrete re-rod to strengthen your gun copy, . . . place them in each half of the mold. Pour each half of the mold up level with the top and allow it to harden, . . . sand the pieces, . . . glue them together, . . . voila, . . . fake gun. Again, . . . I haven't done this, . . . I hope to some day in the near future, . . . but right now it is hay time, . . . mowing time, . . . roof repair time, . . . and I'm helping a buddy put a sump pump into his basement floor. Good luck, may God bless, Dwight I've done quite a bit of resin casting and not to rain on your parade but that technique will be very hit and miss with using hard plastic (resin) as you are only likely to get one casting and the first cast isn't always a good one. Silicone really is the best thing to use for molds when casting resin you don't have to do a full block mold which will use alot of silicone you can do a matrix or skin mold, here is an example of how to do them here http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47324 If you definately can't afford silicone liquid latex can be used but it takes longer to make a mold as you need to wait for the layers to set up, though there are thicker versions around which will make the process quicker. In the long run you are'nt going to save any money by casting unless your after quite a few multiples of each gun model as you need the blue gun or the real thing in the first place to make the mold. If you are wanting to do multiples silicone is definately the way to go as you will get more casts out of silicone than you will for liquid latex. Hope this is of some help Cheers, Clair Quote
Members fishguy Posted July 22, 2009 Members Report Posted July 22, 2009 Have you thought of making wooden models of the guns? i have done this for a few hard to find models such as the Taurus "Judge". Of course these were not super tight highly boned holsters, but they worked quite well for basic holster stretching and forming. Quote
Members cowhide Posted July 22, 2009 Members Report Posted July 22, 2009 John, I understand the red or blue guns can get quite expensive.what you can do is look up Airsolf.com look at the spring loaded pistols. You can get them from $5 up to $30. They are a hard plastic of a 1:1 ratio. look upder :airsolfofatl.com then click on spring. let me know what you think,Stephen Quote
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