Adler 30-1 Threading Problem

[ginny]

hey all! long time lurker, 1st post!

i am *ahem* machine sitting an adler 30-1 for my brother in law until i can get my COBRA FROM STEVE!!

bro-in-law confirms that the machine did sew when he got it, so i know it works... i have done some LIGHT cleaning (nothing major) and have oiled the machine. i have a photocopy of a singer 29-4 instruction manual, a 29-k70 instruction manual and the adler 30 manual for mechanics.... however i am having a hard time getting it to thread correctly.

at this point, i have the upper thread threaded correctly, to the best i can tell... and have the bobbin in the shuttle. when i hand crank the wheel, the needle goes down, but does not pick up the bobbin thread. i am sure it is something simple like incorrect bobbin placement or something like this... but i am not sure how to fix from this point.

anyone that can provide some help would be welcome... and if pictures/video are needed to explain, i will be happy to take/post.

thanks for the great forums here, youve been very helpful so far!

[dirtclod]

Hi Ginny, i think the bobbin will only fit one way. But i might be wrong about that though. Do you have thr thread pulled out long enough on the bobbin for the top thread to pick it up ? I don't think how it's threaded on top will matter on picking the bobbin thread up. But will effect how it sews if it's threaded wrong. A couple of pictures would be handy. I'm sure somebody that knows alot more than me will be by shortly to help you out. Good luck.

[Wizcrafts]

The top thread must go around the tension disk, then up to the the hole in the takeup arm, down through the hole in the needlebar, and into the eye of the needle, from left to right, with the eye facing to the right. The bobbin should be setup as follows:

Load the thread tightly onto the bobbin. Insert the bobbin into the bobbin case so that the thread pulls backwards, from the right side. Pull the thread into the slot in the case, then underneath the tension spring, then through the tiny hole in the case, then through the hole in the top of the post in the case. Leave enough thread to pull up through the hole in the throatplate. Pull the thread up through the hole and seat the throat plate in its detent stud. Rotate the hand wheel to raise the needle, then raise the pressor foot with the lift lever on the back. Insert some material and lower the pressor foot lever, ensuring that the foot is in firm contact with the material. Spin the hand wheel towards (counter-clockwise rotation) you with some material under the pressor foot and see if it sews a stitch or skips stitches. If it still skips, check the spring on the top or back, to ensure that there is good pressure on the pressor foot.

Some things that will affect stitching on a patcher include all of the above, plus: wrong needle length, or size for the thread, to much bobbin tension, jammed top thread, or machine out of time at the bobbin. If the machine has gone out of time you should not mess with it, but contact a qualified repair person.

[ginny]

ok, so i uploaded a video to youtube of the action of the bobbin, shuttle and needle...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=xd4TxS_fP2A

maybe this helps in the diagnosis...

i have tried catching the bobbin thread with and without the plate in place, and with the thread both to the right and left of the main arm... with no luck.

wiz, thanks for your post... i am going to re-read your bobbin description SLOWER (lol) in a few min. but wanted to get this posted in the meantime

thanks to everyone for your help so far!

-ginny

[tonyc1]

ok, so i uploaded a video to youtube of the action of the bobbin, shuttle and needle...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=xd4TxS_fP2A

maybe this helps in the diagnosis...

i have tried catching the bobbin thread with and without the plate in place, and with the thread both to the right and left of the main arm... with no luck.

wiz, thanks for your post... i am going to re-read your bobbin description SLOWER (lol) in a few min. but wanted to get this posted in the meantime

thanks to everyone for your help so far!

-ginny

I use a Singer patcher and the Eye of the needle and the long groove of the needle need to face left of the machine. It doesn't look as if that is the way you have your needle inserted.

Tony.

[ginny]

Tony, I confirmed the needle is placed as you described... still no results, but at least that is not the issue.

thanks!

I use a Singer patcher and the Eye of the needle and the long groove of the needle need to face left of the machine. It doesn't look as if that is the way you have your needle inserted.

Tony.

[barra]

I can't watch youtubes on the computer I am using. When the needle is at the bottom of it's stroke, where is the hook on the bobbin race?

Barra

[CowboyBob]

Well the vid needs alittle more light on it for me to be sure but it looks like your threading the needle wrong it's supposed to go from the left to the right,also the long groove of the needle needs to be on the left.

[oldtimer]

I agree with Sewmun, the eye of the needle is pointing towards you, and you need to twist the needle a quarter of a turn to make the machine sew. The groove on the needle should be to the left and the eye pointing from left to right. The machine will sew within seconds and you´ll smile!

/ Knut

[ginny]

sewmun, thanks for your feedback... that issue was already addressed. the needle has been turned correctly, and still the same action.

Well the vid needs alittle more light on it for me to be sure but it looks like your threading the needle wrong it's supposed to go from the left to the right,also the long groove of the needle needs to be on the left.

here is a picture of the location of the shuttle groove, when the needle is in the full down position. hope this helps!