8thsinner Report post Posted December 11, 2009 I was finishing off five notebooks today for gifting, all of which took up the offer of free name carving... Probably, that would be a big mistake if customers knew the proper defination of carving. I am not capable of carving with a swivel knife no matter how hard I try, as soon as there is a curve I screw it up, so for only one of these books I used it. On the others I used my old standard method. A blunted awl. These are the results I am getting...I know the pic is a bit big, sorry about that. Now it's far from perfect, and I was working on top of a scratch too, that wasn't the result of me slipping (this time anyway) So, my point is I think the results I am getting by drawing like a pen are pretty good, critique away. But with a more suitable knife I think I could do some pretty decent carving...(maybe) Hopefully even... Any suggestions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWL Report post Posted December 11, 2009 I was finishing off five notebooks today for gifting, all of which took up the offer of free name carving... Probably, that would be a big mistake if customers knew the proper defination of carving. I am not capable of carving with a swivel knife no matter how hard I try, as soon as there is a curve I screw it up, so for only one of these books I used it. On the others I used my old standard method. A blunted awl. These are the results I am getting...I know the pic is a bit big, sorry about that. Now it's far from perfect, and I was working on top of a scratch too, that wasn't the result of me slipping (this time anyway) So, my point is I think the results I am getting by drawing like a pen are pretty good, critique away. But with a more suitable knife I think I could do some pretty decent carving...(maybe) Hopefully even... Any suggestions. Howdy you'all I have been experimenting with an engraver with some sucess. I am looking at differant tool shapes at this time. you might try this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Genadek Report post Posted December 12, 2009 I vividly remember my first meeting with Bob Brown. He pulled out a yellow handled screwdriver with a bunch of electrical tape wrapped around it and began cutting into the leather as though he were drawing with a pencil. It doesn't matter how you get there only that you get there. David Genadek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted December 12, 2009 sure, Al Stohlman carved with sharpend nails..., however, I don't think there is any tool better for the job than the swivel knife, but it's the hardest tool for a leathercrafter to master. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8thsinner Report post Posted December 12, 2009 Well I figured people have used alternatives before, But I was thinking proper tools more widely accepted, like a skiver vs french skiver. Subtle differences but commonly used. I have thought of trying a screwdriver sharpened up, might try it then. Thanks for the cool history lesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevinhopkins Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Hi 8th... Your work looks great! I have to agree with Rawhide tho... that stupid swivel knife is a bear to get the hang of for some of us, but once you get it, it's a powerful force! But what it really comes down to at the end, is what the finished product looks like. I think you're doin' great! Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8thsinner Report post Posted December 15, 2009 Thanks for the compliments Kevin, Much appreciated. I really want to be able to do all the georgous carvings I see on here, or even be able to attempt some. I tried a flower notebook as a gift as by recommendations on here, but my knife work was appalling. Guess I will work on my awl work for a while until a get a good tool worked out...Broken screwdriver sounds findable though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bruce johnson Report post Posted December 15, 2009 There is also a tool sometimes sold under the name "swivel tip cutter". I think they use them to chase threads in machine shops maybe? During one of my thumb dislocation deals a couple years ago I borrowed one. It has a trailing blade that swivels in handle, and you hold it somewhat like a pen. It worked alright, and saved me when I was splinted up. The problem with it is the cutting edge is at the back of this trailing swiveling blade. It is kind of like pulling a trailer that cheats badly. You really need to make exaggerated wide sweeping movements for the cuts to end up right. I was glad I had it when I did, but happier once I could maneuver the swivel knives again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8thsinner Report post Posted December 15, 2009 Is this what you mean? http://www.jacquescrafts.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1613 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted December 15, 2009 8th i belive if you will set down and pratice with the swivel knife it will get alot easier. I just went at it on pieces of scrap from little to big and i know it has helped me alot. Now i don't really think i'll get as good at it as some on here. But i'm trying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites