Rolling Stone Report post Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Hello everyone, My handle is Rolling Stone, I live just out of Knoxville, Tn. My buddy and I have been making knife handles and putting them on blades from the Knife Factory in Pigeon Forge, Tn. We do mostly small damascus for SASS shooters accessories.I have been sewing the sheaths on an old Singer 29-4. I had the chance to buy a needle and awl machine and did buy it. Now I would like to know more about it. It looks something like the big "C" casting on a Landis #3. There is my problem, the Landis flywheels are at a right angle to the machine and mine are like most treadle machines. Look at the pictures and see if anyone can tell me something about this heavyweight. Thanks for looking.The machine is not stuck, kind of stiff but everything appears to be there. The screw that holds the needle is stripped in the needle rod and I will have to remove it to re-tap the hole. There is a cracked casting that is on the right facing the business side of the machine that holds the stitch length adjusting screw. I think it will repair quickly. Re-adjusting after removing these parts may require more know-how than is present at my shop. Any info you can furnish will surely be appreciated. Holsters and gun belts will be next products. R S Edited January 14, 2010 by Rolling Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted January 15, 2010 I don't know what brand machine that is but can tell you it's a single needle chainstitch used in collar making,luggage making.It's alot like a Puritan. I probably have needles & awls for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolling Stone Report post Posted January 15, 2010 Great! Now to find some info concerning setting up the awls and needles. Do you have any idea about another machine, maybe # for Singer machine I can get info on, that the operation would need to be close enough to get it sewing? Sizes, thread and awl and needles are all outside my expertise. HELP ! Thanks "sewmun" for this info. I will be in touch as soon as I know what I need. R S Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Singer never made a big single thread chainstitch like this machine,I'd say look to Puritan for more info. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolling Stone Report post Posted January 16, 2010 My reply from Puritan. I have further inquired about what info they have about setting up their machine and haven't heard back. This machine must really be an odd ball. Dear Mr. Hale: Thank you for sharing with us the photographs of your very interesting old machine. Your machine does not resemble any type manufactured in the past by Puritan, nor does it resemble any other machine with which we are familiar. We can provide basic advice on timing and adjustment of a needle and awl chainstitch machine, of which type is Puritan. Some of the procedures we use for adjustment of our machine can likely be applied to your type. Additionally, some of our screw threads may be same as in in your machine. The threads were one of many standards in effect over 100 years ago when Puritan was founded, but have become lost to time. We continue to support older Puritan Machines. We wish you luck with your machine. Best Regards, Drew Papanek Puritan Industries, Inc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolling Stone Report post Posted May 15, 2011 BTT, maybe someone new will see this and know more about it. I have it sewing beautifully now. I would just like to know who made it. Thanks Rolling Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amuckart Report post Posted May 17, 2011 I'm almost certainly wrong about this, but there are aspects of that, like the way the base fits the table, and the shape of the flywheel that are quite reminiscent of an A1. I wonder if it's a Pearson or BUSM machine. I'm almost certainly wrong about this, but there are aspects of that, like the way the base fits the table, and the shape of the flywheel that are quite reminiscent of an A1. I wonder if it's a Pearson or BUSM machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryano Report post Posted January 26, 2012 Hello, I know this is a very old post, but I know what the stitching machine is. It is an International Wax Thread sewing machine made by the International Harness Machinery Co. It was made in Cincinnati, Oh. The machine is pictured in their machinery sales book from the turn of the last century. I hope this helps! Ryan Hello everyone, My handle is Rolling Stone, I live just out of Knoxville, Tn. My buddy and I have been making knife handles and putting them on blades from the Knife Factory in Pigeon Forge, Tn. We do mostly small damascus for SASS shooters accessories.I have been sewing the sheaths on an old Singer 29-4. I had the chance to buy a needle and awl machine and did buy it. Now I would like to know more about it. It looks something like the big "C" casting on a Landis #3. There is my problem, the Landis flywheels are at a right angle to the machine and mine are like most treadle machines. Look at the pictures and see if anyone can tell me something about this heavyweight. Thanks for looking.The machine is not stuck, kind of stiff but everything appears to be there. The screw that holds the needle is stripped in the needle rod and I will have to remove it to re-tap the hole. There is a cracked casting that is on the right facing the business side of the machine that holds the stitch length adjusting screw. I think it will repair quickly. Re-adjusting after removing these parts may require more know-how than is present at my shop. Any info you can furnish will surely be appreciated. Holsters and gun belts will be next products. R S Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertmeco Report post Posted January 26, 2012 Great! Now to find some info concerning setting up the awls and needles. Do you have any idea about another machine, maybe # for Singer machine I can get info on, that the operation would need to be close enough to get it sewing? Sizes, thread and awl and needles are all outside my expertise. HELP ! Thanks "sewmun" for this info. I will be in touch as soon as I know what I need. R S Here is a link that might help http://www.campbell-bosworth.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/2211 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19th century bootmaker Report post Posted January 26, 2012 Hello, I know this is a very old post, but I know what the stitching machine is. It is an International Wax Thread sewing machine made by the International Harness Machinery Co. It was made in Cincinnati, Oh. The machine is pictured in their machinery sales book from the turn of the last century. I hope this helps! Ryan Hi Ryan, where can I access this book, pictures and anything else about this machine? Regards, JesseLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryano Report post Posted January 31, 2012 I did have several copies, but have sold them. There are 3 machines listed like the one in the pic. Improved International Wax Thread Sewing Machine, Suit Case Machine and Welt Sewing Machine. I need a closer picture of the of the machine above to see if it is a Harness or Suit Case machine. Thats all the information in the book except that the machine has rotary movement which increases speed, more tension and quality of stitch. You can look up the patten number and it will tell you about the machine. I will help you look and see if I can get you a copy of the book. Hi Ryan, where can I access this book, pictures and anything else about this machine? Regards, JesseLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryano Report post Posted January 31, 2012 After looking at the pictures, it is the Harness machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rolling Stone Report post Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks Ryano, I have sold the machine to 19th Century Bootmaker and it now resides in Canada. Thanks for your info and help. JesseLee should have contacted you by now concerning the literature. If something doesn't happen soon, contact me, I have his contact info. Again, I really appreciate you effort. Rolling Stone After looking at the pictures, it is the Harness machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites