Members WillGhormley Posted January 28, 2010 Members Report Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) Hey Folks, I was wonderin' if anyone knew who invented the Swivel Knife and when. I'm 51 and it's been around longer than me. It's all I ever heard Al Stohlman talk about, so I know it's older than dirt, or at least the 40's. If anyone has any information, I'd like to hear it. Thanks, Will Edited January 28, 2010 by Johanna removed email address to prevent spam Quote Exploit your Strengths, Compensate for your Weaknesses!
Moderator bruce johnson Posted January 28, 2010 Moderator Report Posted January 28, 2010 Will, In a class I took from Chuck Smith last month he talked about some of the history of tools. His mention was that the oldest he knew of was an FK Russell. I can't remember what year. The knife was given to Don King for his museum. I have an old Hinkley-Tandy catalog from the 40s, and they have one in there, but no identified maker. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Contributing Member ClayB Posted January 28, 2010 Contributing Member Report Posted January 28, 2010 Good question Will. I've wondered the same thing. Quote ClayB Badlands Leather Art blog Badlands Leather Art Website
Members cgleather Posted January 28, 2010 Members Report Posted January 28, 2010 Me to! I sold some F K Russell stamps for a friend and the buyer stated they made tools in the 20s and 30s. Quote
Members WyomingSlick Posted January 28, 2010 Members Report Posted January 28, 2010 Examples of tooled leather that were done by cutting and beveling date back well over a thousand years ago. One early example, a celtic desgn demonstrates this readily. However it is a geometric design that would not have reguired a swivel knife. I think you have to look to the early Spanish carvers who started using floral designs on saddles. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't evolve from a simple knife that simply had a yoke, or Y on the top. Someone probably figured out soon that such a knife would work better if the top would swivel and walla! - the swivel knife was born! I would think then that we owe it to some early Spanish carver who got tired of moving his body, and/or the leather so much while carving a flower. And now we have ball bearings Quote (John 8:32) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (KJV) And the truth is that religion is nothing more than the lame attempt by largely ignorant people to bring sense and order to a world that was beyond their comprehension. Once you see religion for the delusional and superstitious artifact it is............... you will be free !
Moderator bruce johnson Posted January 28, 2010 Moderator Report Posted January 28, 2010 Will, to date things back a little further than my earlier post, I have part of an old Schoellkopf catalog, and they list swivel knives (called swivel top cutters then) in what I have. The source of the reprint has one from 1924 and one from 1935. Not sure which I have, but I would suspect it is the maybe the 1924. I am basing this on the Landis 3 being the latest sewing machine listed. I thought the 16 came in the early 30s, but someone who has more machine history will know more on that. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members steveh Posted January 29, 2010 Members Report Posted January 29, 2010 P B Mcmillen was established in 1898 in Kansas City MO. They manufactured leather stamps and tools. There was some very nice floral carving coming out of the saddle shops during the turn of the century. Such as Visala ,Main Winchester, DE Walker that looks like swivel knife work to me. The GS Garcia worlds fair saddle of 1904 is also a good example. Steve Quote
TimKleffner Posted January 29, 2010 Report Posted January 29, 2010 Howdy Will Glad to see you here. It's been a while since Sheridan show back in 03? 04? Where's Ann???? Happy tooling Tim Quote It's hard to fail, but worse never to have tried to succeed.Theodore Roosevelt
Members jana Posted February 2, 2010 Members Report Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) The Dictionary of Leather-Working Tools, c.1750-1950, has a section on tooling. The author says that incising knives were used mainly until the early 1900's and that "This knife, which largely displaced the incising knife, is of American origin of c.1900." pg.198. I have tried to find patented information but haven't had much luck... Hope this helps. Edited February 2, 2010 by jana Quote Jana "A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step." - Chinese Proverb
Members WyomingSlick Posted May 2, 2010 Members Report Posted May 2, 2010 I ran across this article on the net today, and since it applied directly to the subject of this thread, will post it here. Definately worth the reading! http://www.proleptic.net/ShopTalk_APRIL_web%20article.pdf Quote (John 8:32) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (KJV) And the truth is that religion is nothing more than the lame attempt by largely ignorant people to bring sense and order to a world that was beyond their comprehension. Once you see religion for the delusional and superstitious artifact it is............... you will be free !
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