Anyone Give You The Look Of Horror...

[Shorts]

Pardon my ignorance, but is Ohio one of the few states without concealed carry? I know Wisconsin is one of the few, and I CAN'T WAIT till our idiot Governor leaves! I just hope the next guy is a little less narrow minded.

Ohio has both CC and OC. I feel for Wisconsin. You are one of the few, lumped in with Illinois & DC....ewwww

[horsewreck]

You ought to try being mayor of your town and see the reaction of people when they find out you live with a 357mag. snubbie. Most people think it's pretty cool. I prefer concealed carry........

[Shorts]

We do have concealed carry, but in my area, not too many people actually carry, or as Denster pointed out, they hide them well. LOL I live in a rural county, pop. 44,000. In the cities like Dayton and Toledo, I'm sure the carry stats would be higher. We are fortunate to have unlocked doors and pretty benign Police logs in New Knoxville, but I'd lay money every farm house has a shotgun or two.

I feel safer in a community where the law abiding citizens have guns, be it Texas or Georgia or Ohio. When people from other parts of the world seem surprised about how casual firearms are in the US, I wonder how scary it would be without them?

Johanna

[Hilly]

Ohio has both CC and OC. I feel for Wisconsin. You are one of the few, lumped in with Illinois & DC....ewwww

Mean people suck.

[Spinner]

This past week I traveled back home for a little vacation time to relax. I bumped into a few parents of friends at church and as we were catching up the conversation turns to "What are you doing now?" As I tell them I see their face contort to a look of horror and question as they try to remain understanding and supportive. This wasn't the first time this happened and I don't suspect it will be the last. I find it somewhat humorous as people are faced with the conundrum of "guns are bad!" and "she's a nice person".

Had any similar moments?

Interesting that you bring this up Shorts. I occassionally get similar reactions here in L.A. but to the even broader, simple answer of "I do leatherworking as a hobby". Here you sometimes will get a reaction from that seemingly simple statement. "You cut and carve up the skins of defenseless animals for fun?!?" Yeah, the PETAites and wannabe do-gooders here can be and are very hypocritical in certain areas. Even when you point out that their Nike runners, Itailian leather BMW seats or their monogrammed briefcases were all made the same way, they still act shocked and appalled. One gallery buyer that I used to deal with for woodturning turned me down for potential leatherworking pieces due to the fact that "they refuse to sell animal flesh". Needless to say I pulled all my work from the gallery and told them to pucker up and K.M.A.

[Shorts]

Interesting that you bring this up Shorts. I occassionally get similar reactions here in L.A. but to the even broader, simple answer of "I do leatherworking as a hobby". Here you sometimes will get a reaction from that seemingly simple statement. "You cut and carve up the skins of defenseless animals for fun?!?" Yeah, the PETAites and wannabe do-gooders here can be and are very hypocritical in certain areas. Even when you point out that their Nike runners, Itailian leather BMW seats or their monogrammed briefcases were all made the same way, they still act shocked and appalled. One gallery buyer that I used to deal with for woodturning turned me down for potential leatherworking pieces due to the fact that "they refuse to sell animal flesh". Needless to say I pulled all my work from the gallery and told them to pucker up and K.M.A.

Ahhhh! See I never thought of that cause around here, well, beef - it's what's for dinner.

I think I've only got the leather-hater once, but she was a Birkenstock/Subaru/fleece-type/PNW friend of ours from the Navy and she didn't say anything directly to me. She just made an offhand comment once when all the guys just got back from a det with their new leather flight jackets..."I hate the smell of leather". So, in that regard I respect her for respecting me enough not to bring it to my doorstep.

[Johanna]

I have thought about posting the hate mail that admin gets from vegans and others who don't seem to understand that animals are not killed for their hides, leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. But if I posted it, even though it's great entertainment, it would give them attention they don't deserve. I believe in killing animals responsibly for consumption; I do not throw rocks at kittens or club baby seals. The mail I get from the extremists usually is passionate, and maybe sincere, but terribly ignorant of the way the industry works. A few times I tried to write back and clear up some misconceptions, but that just inspired more hate mail, so I just delete it now. I live in farm country, so the kids know where our food comes from. Some urban children don't understand how those neatly wrapped plastic packages arrived at their grocery store.

Johanna

[horsewreck]

I have thought about posting the hate mail that admin gets from vegans and others who don't seem to understand that animals are not killed for their hides, leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. But if I posted it, even though it's great entertainment, it would give them attention they don't deserve. I believe in killing animals responsibly for consumption; I do not throw rocks at kittens or club baby seals. The mail I get from the extremists usually is passionate, and maybe sincere, but terribly ignorant of the way the industry works. A few times I tried to write back and clear up some misconceptions, but that just inspired more hate mail, so I just delete it now. I live in farm country, so the kids know where our food comes from. Some urban children don't understand how those neatly wrapped plastic packages arrived at their grocery store.

Johanna

Johanna, Thanks for not posting stuff from those misguided folks... Jeff

[gregintenn]

I'm lucky. Nearly everyone around here has firearms. The usual reponse I recieve when someone leasrns that I make holsters is "Cool! Could you make me a .............?"

[cem]

I have thought about posting the hate mail that admin gets from vegans and others who don't seem to understand that animals are not killed for their hides, leather is a byproduct of the meat industry. But if I posted it, even though it's great entertainment, it would give them attention they don't deserve. I believe in killing animals responsibly for consumption; I do not throw rocks at kittens or club baby seals. The mail I get from the extremists usually is passionate, and maybe sincere, but terribly ignorant of the way the industry works. A few times I tried to write back and clear up some misconceptions, but that just inspired more hate mail, so I just delete it now. I live in farm country, so the kids know where our food comes from. Some urban children don't understand how those neatly wrapped plastic packages arrived at their grocery store.

Johanna

My partner has to put up with one of these people at his martial arts class, they refuse to buy the leather training gloves because they think the animals are slaughtered just for that ie sports wear. The rest of the dojo knows my partner is from a meat industry family and that they run one of the biggest butchers in the state and I think they are waiting for him to say something as they all smirk when the other person goes off on one their rants. He keeps quiet though as he knows that it won't do any good, he does find some satifaction though as considering where their uniforms are made it's highly likely animal bones were partly used to make the dye to color them.

We don't live in farm country but we made sure our son knows where the tasty steak his Grandad gives us comes from and if he has to travel out to one of the country suppliers with us he will often ask when we see cows in the paddock if they are milk or meat cows.