ShortBBL Report post Posted October 22, 2010 Is there a high quality source for Drum Dyed leather, other than W/C? I've had some issues with my last two orders and want to see if there is a better option to give a try. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonsmith Report post Posted December 19, 2010 Bump. Would like some good suppliers for 5/6 ounce drum dyed BLACK leather that you can easily cut, punch, and stamp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Hatley Report post Posted December 19, 2010 Bump. Would like some good suppliers for 5/6 ounce drum dyed BLACK leather that you can easily cut, punch, and stamp. Good Luck.....all i have seen was Very firm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted December 19, 2010 I've picked up some from Tandy, about two years ago, and while it could be dampened and cased for molding.....dang but it was hard to cut. I try to keep my head knife sharp enough to scare hairs off my arm without even actually touching them, and it took 2 or 3 passes with it to get all the way through. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonsmith Report post Posted December 19, 2010 Good Luck.....all i have seen was Very firm. Why is it the dyed leather is firm? Why can't they get regular leather and dye it like you would if you did it on your own so you can still easily cut and punch it? I'm looking for leather like you get a Tandy's that you can cut and punch. But it is already dyed black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Cornelius Report post Posted December 19, 2010 Why is it the dyed leather is firm? Why can't they get regular leather and dye it like you would if you did it on your own so you can still easily cut and punch it? I'm looking for leather like you get a Tandy's that you can cut and punch. But it is already dyed black. If you want a nice leather to work with that cuts easy buy the english bridle from WC. It does not mold but for belts and other strap goods it works nice. I noticed the hardness the last side I bought. It never used to be this way. I have been using it but have not liked it. If I order again and its this hard I will send it back. But it does make a nice belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonsmith Report post Posted December 19, 2010 If you want a nice leather to work with that cuts easy buy the english bridle from WC. It does not mold but for belts and other strap goods it works nice. I noticed the hardness the last side I bought. It never used to be this way. I have been using it but have not liked it. If I order again and its this hard I will send it back. But it does make a nice belt. Yeah, I'm wanting some nice black dyed leather that can easily be cut with a box cutter, and easily be slot punched for spots. Some black dyed leather I've bought before, the blades on my adjustable spot tool bent when trying to punch it. So, the english bridal from WC is easily cut and punched? What black dyed leather did you get that you found to be too hard to cut? This is what I plan on doing, except it will have a bunch of pyramid spots on it: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShortBBL Report post Posted December 20, 2010 The W/C English Bridle is very nice STRAP leather but it won't take a nice Stamp, carving or moulding. I use their Skirting for those things and I have noticed it is pretty firm.... a little hard to cut, but I use a box cutter and it works ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonsmith Report post Posted December 21, 2010 I'm getting some samples from W/C. Though they will be thicker than what I use. I use 6 ounce. I think they send out 8-10 ounce. But it should give me an idea on how the different types of leather they sell cut. And how easy they can be punched for spots. I did notice W/C sell "Tooling/Holster/Carving" leather in Russet and Black. I'm guessing that leather is similar to the Tandy tooling leather, except that it is dyed. The nice thing about W/C is you can get high grade leather vs. what you get at Tandy. As with Tandy, you have to pick through it as I guess they sell the low grade stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denster Report post Posted December 21, 2010 Weaver's has Hermann Oak drum dyed black in 6/7 and 7/8 strap sides. Very reasonable price and it molds very well. I use a lot of it for holsters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonsmith Report post Posted December 21, 2010 Weaver's has Hermann Oak drum dyed black in 6/7 and 7/8 strap sides. Very reasonable price and it molds very well. I use a lot of it for holsters. Thanks. Hermann and Oak are sending me some samples as well. That way I can find what looks the best, cuts the easiest, and can be slot punched for my pyramid spots without bending my tools. I'm pretty much looking for black smooth grain leather. The nice thing too is I believe I've read the dyed leather is sealed as well. So, you don't have to worry about the dye coming off on your arm. Getting the samples in sure beats wasting money on buying leather and finding out it is too hard to cut or bends your tools which has happened on 2 different pieces of black dyed leather I've bought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellen Report post Posted December 26, 2010 Still Wickett & Craig, and not Tandy. I have heard good things about Springfield Leather, but don't know what they have. It would be good if W&C had a distributor in your area, so you could come in person there and choose the leather you want. Mine W&C drum dyed black leather was softer than regular vegtan ("Tooling/Holster/Carving" russet leather), feels like well oiled leather, but after finishing takes fingernail impressions easier than regular vegtan. Their English Briddle was stiffer, waxer feel, looks much better than drum dyed. It could be wet formed to conform shape you need, with less details than regular vegtan, and this will require more work. Regular vegtan for excellent results requires smelly Fiebing's Pro-Oil dyes, Angelicus acrylics could be an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonsmith Report post Posted December 27, 2010 Still Wickett & Craig, and not Tandy. I have heard good things about Springfield Leather, but don't know what they have. It would be good if W&C had a distributor in your area, so you could come in person there and choose the leather you want. Mine W&C drum dyed black leather was softer than regular vegtan ("Tooling/Holster/Carving" russet leather), feels like well oiled leather, but after finishing takes fingernail impressions easier than regular vegtan. Their English Briddle was stiffer, waxer feel, looks much better than drum dyed. It could be wet formed to conform shape you need, with less details than regular vegtan, and this will require more work. Regular vegtan for excellent results requires smelly Fiebing's Pro-Oil dyes, Angelicus acrylics could be an option. Do you need to put a deglazer on the veg tan leather before you dye? I'm not sure what leather I have. But I got it at Tandy's and it was from a stack of single shoulders and is light in color. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites