megabit Report post Posted January 10, 2011 Finished up my hobbles last night, well sort of. I screwed up the second interweave on the big buttons, so I guess it is time to cut them off and start over. Anyone else have trouble keeping track of the right path for the second or third interweaves? I think before I try again I'll practice some with paracord to try to get it down better. Anyone got any suggestions to help me keep track of those interweaves? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgerbitz Report post Posted January 11, 2011 The best way to keep track of the interweaves for me is to add another color. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aggiebraider Report post Posted January 11, 2011 I agree, interweaves with different colors is alot easier. One thing I noticed that also made it easier is that even if you are using the same color, use 2 strings. If you try and start a new interweave from the same string as the original string, once you get back around to crossing that very first pass, it doesnt want to work just right. Not sure why that is, but it just doesnt work for me. Hope that helps, CW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcsaddles Report post Posted January 11, 2011 I have to agree with the two colors. That is about the only way I can get that done right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted January 11, 2011 Yea a different color certainly helps. I played with 3 colors of paracord last night. A color each for the foundation, 1st interweave and 2nd interweave. I think I found where I was going wrong before you have to cross over the 1st interweave when you turn back or you are on the wrong side to properly split the pairs. Now I guess I'll have to cut off the buttons and give it another go. Here is a picture of the hobbles with the screwed up buttons, they don't really look to bad from a distance or if you don't know what you are looking for. IMG_3552 by ss1442, on Flickr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handwerker Report post Posted January 11, 2011 ..looks an absolute perfekt work !!! Arno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted January 11, 2011 ..looks an absolute perfekt work !!! Arno Nope not even close, on one of the big buttons the run pattern has several spots where it is wrong like U1O1U1 where it should be u3. The other big button got a little bunched on one side so it has some gaps on the other side. Won't be the first knot I have cut off something and retied. Sure is tempting to just use it but it would bug me everytime I looked at it. I am sure it won't be the last one I cut off either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted January 11, 2011 well the rest of it looks really good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted January 12, 2011 Here is a close up of one of the buttons with the problem. I think I understand how to fix it now. I cut off the buttons last night but didn't have time to start the buttons yet. badbutton by ss1442, on Flickr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgerbitz Report post Posted January 13, 2011 It can be a little confusing at times. But I have been able to count strings to figure out where to send things through. It works alright on 2 or three pass. a little harder on 6, 7 and 8 passes. My eyes start to get crossed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted January 13, 2011 Seems like the problem is that you don't find the mistake until you go to split later and it would be pulling out a couple of time around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorsehairBraider Report post Posted January 13, 2011 I think it's just a matter of practice, and then being careful how you lay in each pass. I did one of these to over and under 17 once, in thread... but it was not that bad, although it took me forever, and I had to just stop and patiently think every now and then. So cheer up, I bet the one you do after this will be a piece of cake! Also, if I'm doing a knot and come across a part that looks wrong, I am very willing to just undo a little bit, sometimes just taking things back a little, and then going forwards again. To me this is easier than going forwards when you know something is not right. As soon as something is not laying the way I think it should, I stop and analyze as carefully as I can and then go back as far as necessary to get it right again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted January 14, 2011 Ok, I have the buttons back on now. rawhide hobbles by ss1442, on Flickr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bevan Report post Posted January 14, 2011 Gday Mega look-n very nice now mate I must agree with HorsehairBraider ! the more you do the better you get and keeping an eye on your parrallels, (making sure you split them ) But as i said , look-n very nice now mate , so you have got it now and i cant wait to see the next , I am sure you will find it easier from now on Cheers from Oz www.bwrwhips.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilpep Report post Posted January 14, 2011 nice job !!! Megabit as usual you keep getting better and better every time. just as a hint when ever i make a PK with more than two passes i just simply look at where the bits are "nesting" if looked at horizontally each bite on the left will run under the last pass and on the right the bites run above the last pass but under the outer bite of the foundation knot. not sure if im very clear but if you have Tom Halls books he explains "nesting" very well. take and congrats again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted January 14, 2011 those look great megabit.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted January 16, 2011 Well I got a chance to try out the hobbles today, they seem like they will work out just fine. Hobbles in use by ss1442, on Flickr Hobbles in use by ss1442, on Flickr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acox4t4 Report post Posted January 16, 2011 They look even better on a horse in use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgerbitz Report post Posted January 16, 2011 It is nice to see gear in use. I have any number of times seen something I've made a year or so later in use and thought "Man that's a nice looking piece of gear" then realize it's something I made. Less often than when I started it was stuff that when it was hanging on my wall I wanted to throw it away. I agree with everyone else, your gear is getting better with every piece you make. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work. Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted January 17, 2011 Use kangaroo so you pull out your string and start over, and over and over and over.....which I've done many, many times. I've got it pretty good now, I don't even have to use a different color most the time. I love the look of the finished product. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljensen Report post Posted January 21, 2011 Hi MB, just wanted you to know that I feel your pain. I did the same dang thing last night while working on a button. And I had even switched to a different color string. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites