All the trouble with Artisans

[K-Man]

I must be a slow learner then because I've got three of their machines....

[Jordan]

LMAO

[Rawhide]

Noticed he hasn't been back to reply either, plus it was his first post. It's not likely for a person to register and post a bash like that without some provoking such as: What do you all think about Artisan...and so forth. Me thinks it's just a hit and run.

I have a small Artisan and I love it (I think my wife likes it more than me). I can't say enough about their customer service either. If it isn't right, they'll make it right.

Thanks Artisan.

Marlon

[TheArtisan]

I have a Artisan 797 AB and a Toro 3000, both great machines. Steve is very helpful.

Kevin

[Russ]

I got some names to call Artisan.........

amazing, astonishing, astounding, fantastical, incredible, marvelous, miraculous, phenomenal, prodigious, stupendous, unbelievable, wonderful, wondrous, fantastic, helpful, courteous, considerate, terrific.

I just hope the troll doesn't smear Adler's name by recommending it.

[secondcrk]

Go back and look through your posts! All I have read is problems with them! This is why I posted. As I stated This is my opionion! I have worked all day in my shop until now! I do it for a living! I do repairs and warrenty work for some of the biggest and well known stores in the western states, and no I do not work for a competator! Maybe some of you get by fine with the big Chinese Machines! I don't. What a bunch of haters! I posted this as an opionion! I do stand behind my opinions! I have forgot more about Big machines than most will ever know! Ban me, Take off my post! I really do not care! I make a living with Leather and Machines Ask Connie Nagel, ask Vernon Weaver, ask the Jean Blancs, Ask Bob Booth! Hell ask jack Butcher! I am sure they all have opionions. If this is that clicky of a site. I am sorry I ever got involved with it! I have alot of old(50s&60s) patters That I was willing to share as well as Original H.H. Heiser patterns that came from Fred Carlson! Any of you out there that know anything about H.H.H. Know he was one of the last saddle makers on the payrole in Denver before they shut down! Fotget that! I read things like The Landis 3 is a copy of the Campbell! Yeah right! The randell is the same machine except for a few screws! Not the #3! Maybe you guys can go back to your leather guilds and discuss this post. I really don't care. Keep on thinking what you want. I was reffered here by on of the top young saddle makers in the country, but boy was he wrong! I will close now as I have better things to with my time, Saddle Work. Thanks for letting me waste you space! Tom D. Walahoski

Edited May 20, 2008 by secondcrk

[CitizenKate]

Wow, this thread convinced me to get an Artisan. Thanks, guys!

Kate

PS to secondcrk: It's bad business to dishonestly discredit your competitors. You might have gotten a little more consideration if you had focused on your good points... if you have any... other than your product costs more.

[Russ]

Well, if you really wanted to be part of this community, I doubt you could have come in and made a worse first post. Well, maybe if you'd criticized Kevin King's wallets.....THAT wouldn't have gone over too well either. If you really did read the posts here, you would have known the folly of attacking Aritsan here......cliquey or not, the compliments on this board far outweigh the complaints. Plus, whenever you read here about a "problem" with an Artisan machine, you almost ALWAYS see the follow up of "....I called Artisan and what great service........" and the problem was solved.

I also have opinions about equipment, competitors, and politics, but I'm polite enough not to walk into someone's house and start spewing them about without listening awhile. I certainly wouldn't walk into your saddle shop and immediately start criticizing your work. If I did, I would expect to have some venom spewed at me as I was hustled out the door. The free exchange of ideas on the internet is what makes the internet great. The absence of common courtesy is what makes it not so great.

No doubt I'm wasting my typing here, since you've left to do your saddle work, but perhaps you can return some day and start off by introducing yourself in the proper sub-topic, post some of your work, and compliment someone else's work. No doubt I can learn something from you, besides your distaste of Artisan.

PS: In regards to your personal message to me, I'm already on speaking terms with the Lord. But thank you for your suggestions.

Russ

Go back and look through your posts! All I have read is problems with them! This is why I posted. As I stated This is my opionion! I have worked all day in my shop until now! I do it for a living! I do repairs and warrenty work for some of the biggest and well known stores in the western states, and no I do not work for a competator! Maybe some of you get by fine with the big Chinese Machines! I don't. What a bunch of haters! I posted this as an opionion! I do stand behind my opinions! I have forgot more about Big machines than most will ever know! Ban me, Take off my post! I really do not care! I make a living with Leather and Machines Ask Connie Nagel, ask Vernon Weaver, ask the Jean Blancs, Ask Bob Booth! Hell ask jack Butcher! I am sure they all have opionions. If this is that clicky of a site. I am sorry I ever got involved with it! I have alot of old(50s&60s) patters That I was willing to share as well as Original H.H. Heiser patterns that came from Fred Carlson! Any of you out there that know anything about H.H.H. Know he was one of the last saddle makers on the payrole in Denver before they shut down! Fotget that! I read things like The Landis 3 is a copy of the Campbell! Yeah right! The randell is the same machine except for a few screws! Not the #3! Maybe you guys can go back to your leather guilds and discuss this post. I really don't care. Keep on thinking what you want. I was reffered here by on of the top young saddle makers in the country, but boy was he wrong! I will close now as I have better things to with my time, Saddle Work. Thanks for letting me waste you space! Tom D. Walahoski

[Johanna]

Admin,

Tom D. Walahoski has just sent you the message below via the contact form on Leatherworker.net:

What a bunch of hateful bastards! Please take me out of your system and all links and forwardings! Why, just read the flx I got for a opionion! Thanks for the time, but I have no time for this crap!

Email address: secondcrk- Matches secondcrk http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showuser=6664

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Closing this topic.

Johanna