help please?

[hiloboy]

well i have tried every place to see if i can get oil or spirit dye shipped here and its no go.. i can buy them but can't ship by air. so i ask it could be shipped by ship they said yes.. but i would have to buy it by the skip thats not going to happen..what i want to know is will ECO-FLO products work for cycle seats and bags..and if i have to use it. and it looks like i'm going to have to what top coats would be the best to use to seal it for outdoor use.. i need all the help i can..ldeas please.. other type of dye what ever. as long as i can ship it... maybe don't use dyes only some type of a sealer i just don't know ..help!!!

Edited May 22, 2008 by hiloboy

[tazzmann]

Have you checked these out:

http://www.eleatherworks.com/product.php?p...at=0&page=1

They are allowed in California and should be ok to fly air.

[hiloboy]

tazzman,thanks for the idea but i just called.. i can buy it but they can't fly here by air..

i just talked to someone i Calif at a tandy that said when dyeing with ECO-FLO to first put neatsfoot oil ,then super shene let it dry.then use the eco-flo dyes then super shene for the final finish useing a airbrush ..how would that work..or is he talking of the top of his head...

Edited May 22, 2008 by hiloboy

[tazzmann]

Not really sure as I don't use the Eco-flow stuff. Maybe someone else can chime in who uses it. Sorry.

[Washroad]

tazzman,thanks for the idea but i just called.. i can buy it but they can't fly here by air..

i just talked to someone i Calif at a tandy that said when dyeing with ECO-FLO to first put neatsfoot oil ,then super shene let it dry.then use the eco-flo dyes then super shene for the final finish useing a airbrush ..how would that work..or is he talking of the top of his head...

hiloboy,

If you apply Super Sheen before using the Eco-Flo dye, the Super Sheen will act as a "resist" and the dye will not absorb.

You may try the neatsfoot, then dye, then Super/Satin Sheen.

Got scrap????

Good luck!

[David]

That sounds like something off the top of his head to me..... neatsfoot is OIL...eco is WATER based.....did he ever hear that oil and water don't mix?

Just another opinion

David Theobald

how about a friend in CA buying a supply for you and shipping via sea?

[TwinOaks]

Well, if there's no other alternative.....how's your supply of permanent markers? Ever thought of cracking one open and squeezing out the goodies?

[Shorts]

EcoFlo is fine, just seal it well. Real well. I use EcoFlo browns on my holsters.

Edited May 27, 2008 by Shorts

[hiloboy]

Shorts, what do you use to seal your EcoFlo and how many coats do you use?or what is the best way you have found to seal it?...

Edited May 31, 2008 by hiloboy

[Shorts]

Shorts, what do you use to seal your EcoFlo and how many coats do you use?or what is the best way you have found to seal it?...

I've been sealing it with Tan Kote on the outside of my holsters. When I brushed it on (w/wool dauber) at full strength, I applied 2 coats, maybe a light third to even out any spots. Now I'm airbrushing a diluted 50/50, well I'm spraying more coats, 3-5 depending on how mesmerized I get playing with the airbrush and the nice lay of spray

Airbrush leaves an absolutely gorgeous finish a wool dauber cannot beat - at least in the projects I've done - YMMV. The quality of the finish is very noticeable.

On the insides/rough, I lay in a heavy application (w/wool dauber) of Satin Sheen. My main goal is to saturate the the leather with some moisture resistance. Sometimes I'll use Tan Kote to seal it all together on the inside. I'm still experiementing and time/use is whats going to tell me which I should be doing. That goes for the outside as well.

Now, you'll notice that if you're applying any coat of any liquid with a dauber, that you will see rub off. So, you must be attentive. Once your top coat dries, you'll need to buff it out again. I haven't experienced uch (if any) rub off from my holsters in handling, but I am also not wearing them all day, every day like someone else may be doing. I'm still very young in the game that I need to wait on feedback from customers before I can be certain.

[hiloboy]

Shorts, thanks for your help.. i'm going to give it a try. the airbrush sounds like the way to go when putting on your finish..thanks again for the info...

Edited May 31, 2008 by hiloboy

[singteck]

I have the same problem trying to source the Professional Oil dye. But I have found a dye powder that I can mix myself. They come in powder form or crystal depending on colour and when added to spirit looks and perform like the oil dye. It can disolve in oil based tinner as well so I would assume it is the same stuff used in the oil dye.

singteck

[hiloboy]

singteck, can i get a link to your source for powder dyes. sounds like what i'm looking for mahalos for the help..

[singteck]

I get them from the hardware shops around here. They used it for wood dye.

singteck

[Shorts]

Out of curiosity, would pottery powders and pigments work in spirits?

[singteck]

Pottery powder and pigments are not dye but they can be used as stains. They do not disolve in the solvent but suspended in the matrix.

I could be wrong.

singteck