Members 8thsinner Posted April 26, 2011 Members Report Posted April 26, 2011 Hey guys, I have not made any horse tack unless a crop counts before, but I have a friend who would maybe think about a cheap set of braided gear. I would like to know what all I would need for a full set, SO far as I know I need a Nose button Bridle Reins Halter I have no idea if one of those covers another uses or not that's why I am asking you. If I was to be using the smallest plaits possible. And I am thinking initially of using braided cow hide but quite a nice one, with smallest number of strands for comfort and looks compromise what should I be aiming at??? I was hoping for wide strands I might be able to get away with using either a paracord core or even a 3mm solid leather thong just for shape, the leather I have right now I am thinking of using is actually surprisingly tough in a 3mm width but I would probably aim to use a strand slightly wider for that of course. At this point I have no idea what I am talking about and whether it would work, so please give me a break down if possible in basic laymans terms, I can look up specific examples of how to construct things and I have seen a few threads I will be going back to. Also give me a price in your currency as to what you would charge if it was cow and if it was roo. Quote Doing the right thing is bleeding for the cause. Website Facebook
Members Nod4Eight Posted April 26, 2011 Members Report Posted April 26, 2011 Here's my 2 cents. A 'full set' will mean different things to different people. A nose button is the long braided button on the top of a bosal. Many good horses never wear a bosal (although I think they are an invaluable training tool). So I would add a bosal to your list along with a nice hanger, but that depends on if your friend uses this. If not I have seen some real nice nose buttons braided on the nose of a rope halter. To fancy it up tie a fiador knot under the chin. There's a pretty good tutorial you can google on this. When you say bridle I imagine you mean headstall. This is what the bridle or bit hangs from that goes over the horses ears. This is not used with a bosal unless their horse is in the 2 rein, but it is used with reins. There are good examples of both headstalls and reins on this site. Another thing to consider is a set of hobbles. Other horse gear I've braided are piggin string (short piece of rope much like a 4-5 foot riata used for a variety of things like lashing together gear, tying legs when doctoring and emergency fence repair) and a nitelatch (loops through the gullet of your saddle as an oh-crap-handle when your pony blows up). These are both things that were pieces made from practice braids that I found a use for. As far as price, that's hard to say - depends on the amount of detail and your title says cheapest. I've made some pretty ugly but functional gear. Maybe this will spark some other answers at least. Quote
Members megabit Posted April 26, 2011 Members Report Posted April 26, 2011 I would say if they want cheap gear tell them to go to the local feed store and buy some no name nylon tack or better yet tell them to collect up bailer twine and braid it themself. Braiding this stuff take lots of time and time is money, non of it is cheap. Now if it is a real good freind you could make something nice and just give it to them. Quote
Members dbusarow Posted April 26, 2011 Members Report Posted April 26, 2011 I'm with megabit. If the word cheap comes up in a question about gear you don't want to be involved. If you still want to do this buy the book "How to Make Cowboy Horse Gear" by Bruce Grant. It will give you a good idea of what's involved. And cow or roo, I doubt if cheap would be part of YOUR description. Dan Quote Dan Busarow dan@fishcreekleatherworks.com http://www.fishcreekleatherworks.com/
Members entiendo Posted April 26, 2011 Members Report Posted April 26, 2011 Braiding headstalls and reins takes HOURS, use only the best materials. The time isn't worth it unless you are just practicing. Quote
Members Bevan Posted April 27, 2011 Members Report Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Well I recon if you can not picture what you want to make , you can not make it ????? You can ask all the Q but you need to know what you are making and what it should look like !! I am still making a gooses bridle, for my mum As for how much ?? depends on how long it takes you to make something you dont know what it looks like , then add a bit more for inconvenience!! Cheers mate www.bwrwhips.com Edited April 27, 2011 by Bevan Quote
Members Bevan Posted April 27, 2011 Members Report Posted April 27, 2011 PS I could give you all my diamentions but then that would not be cheap !! Quote
Members 8thsinner Posted April 27, 2011 Author Members Report Posted April 27, 2011 Bevan, do me a favor, if you have no intention of being friendly in PM's do not offer me advice on the forum. Thank you for the descriptions nod4eight, helped clear a few things up. Perhaps I should not use the term cheap, but I mean cheapest in use, ie four strand reins will probably work but not be comfortable, but they are entry level. Thats a better term, entry level. Whats your entry level suggestions, I will still be charging for time, and like I said the leather, though it's cowhide is pretty good stuff, just not like roo. And megabit, it's not a real good friend, in fact she has caused be a great deal of hassle in the past, but customers are customers, and this would circulate other riders which is my main goal for it...If the term cheap came up it would her saying its the cheapest she could afford. Even that has risks, but if I am still getting paid for it, good enough, if it comes out that I make cheap horse tack then only one stable would be told anyway, I have lost nothing but I could gain much. Anyone potential customer would look to the quality and not the person who bought it anyway. Quality even in in simple braiding speaks for itself. Quote Doing the right thing is bleeding for the cause. Website Facebook
Members megabit Posted April 27, 2011 Members Report Posted April 27, 2011 I just noticed you are in Belfast, does this person ride English or Western? The tack is quite different and I can't recall seeing much English tack braided. Rather than just trying to figure out what makes a whole set, you might want to see if they have something particular in mind. Speaking of 4 plait reins, the set I made myself are 4 plait rawhide and I like them fine. They should wear like iron and haven't found the larger strings to cause any problems. That being said 8 plait or more is much more typical. I like to make rugged using gear vs show/art gear. Nothing wrong with either just my preference. Mike Quote
Members roo4u Posted April 27, 2011 Members Report Posted April 27, 2011 i think before we can help you have an idea of cost we need to know whether they ride english or western, and exactly what pieces of tack they are looking for. Quote TRACY MONSTER FARM SPECIALTIES-custom tack for dog, horse and human
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