whip braiding

[tmroper]

Tony that makes a lot of sense to me and I am open for all suggestions. I am going to try what you suggested and decore one 30" cord and pull the second through it and then tie on the fall. Yes you are correct my has a twisted end rather than a plaited end. Thank you for your help and I will let you know the results as soon as I can give it a go.

Thanks

[jerryrwm]

Tony that makes a lot of sense to me and I am open for all suggestions. I am going to try what you suggested and decore one 30" cord and pull the second through it and then tie on the fall. Yes you are correct my has a twisted end rather than a plaited end. Thank you for your help and I will let you know the results as soon as I can give it a go.

Thanks

Another question... How thick and how long is your cracker? And what material do you make it from? The fall will have some degree of effect on the noise, but if you look at the old latigo whips that many have learned on.. those braided from the point to the handle, they have a wide flat fall with a craker tied on through a slit. And they can crack as loud as you want.

Bailing twine, poly wrapping twine, etc all make great crackers. Just make them thin enough and you should have pretty good success.

[tmroper]

I have made several to try and have made them from thin to thick crackers, I have used bailing twine, nylon and poly with the same results. Meaning I haven't had a chance to rework the fall yet but am looking forward to see if it helps. My cracker when made and twisted up are approx. 11" long

[Suze]

Oh the joys of being a fiber geek on a leather forum

I keep seeing this thread and keep thinking that it is this kind of whip braiding

http://www.eithni.com/Whipcordingdemo.htm

(also known as "combat braiding" by our members.....Ever get "thunked" by a pint size rolling pin?)

Oh and this is usually done with two people tossing the bobbins back and forth.

[jerryrwm]

I have made several to try and have made them from thin to thick crackers, I have used bailing twine, nylon and poly with the same results. Meaning I haven't had a chance to rework the fall yet but am looking forward to see if it helps. My cracker when made and twisted up are approx. 11" long

Maybe a picture or two would enlighten us.

[HorsehairBraider]

Oh the joys of being a fiber geek on a leather forum

I keep seeing this thread and keep thinking that it is this kind of whip braiding

http://www.eithni.com/Whipcordingdemo.htm

(also known as "combat braiding" by our members.....Ever get "thunked" by a pint size rolling pin?)

Oh and this is usually done with two people tossing the bobbins back and forth.

Not being Scandinavian, I'd just call this "four-strand braiding". It's not bad to do with no bobbins, and that's how some of these whips are done. Sometimes though braiders make what's called a "butterfly" (Bruce Grant calls it a "tamale" in his book) which is just like the butterfly weavers use in tapestry weaving. It keeps the long ends from tangling. It provides no weight but helps with the length, just like the bobbins would.

[carr52]

Maybe a picture or two would enlighten us.

I have made them out of the same nylon used to braid the whip. One is made of masons twine, one piece twisted into itself. The falls are just the end of the braiding process. I braided two of the strands back up and into the whip then used the others to make the fall. The handles are made of 1/2" PVC If you cant get the type with the coupling preformed onto it then you can just glue one on. The whip goes into the end with the coupling on it and the two thongs attached to the loop on the end of the whip is pulled through the holes near the end and tied off or used as a wrist loop. Oh yeah, the white one is a cedar one I'm working on. Just drilled a hole in the end of it.

Tom

[carr52]

I have made them out of the same nylon used to braid the whip. One is made of masons twine, one piece twisted into itself. The falls are just the end of the braiding process. I braided two of the strands back up and into the whip then used the others to make the fall. The handles are made of 1/2" PVC If you cant get the type with the coupling preformed onto it then you can just glue one on. The whip goes into the end with the coupling on it and the two thongs attached to the loop on the end of the whip is pulled through the holes near the end and tied off or used as a wrist loop. Oh yeah, the white one is a cedar one I'm working on. Just drilled a hole in the end of it.

Tom

Heres how the handle goes on. The two thongs on this one arnt long enough to make a wrist loop.

Tom

[tmroper]

i will try and put some pics up

[Bullwhip]

Hi Guys,

I recently started leather working, specifically whip making. Plaiting is no problem, can plait 16 strands, do the handle and transition etc. The thing that i am struggling with now, is how to create patterns by using different strand colors. Ron Edwards describes this a bit in his book Bushcraft, but its still not enough.

Could any of the masters here please draw a few images on strand color variation for various patterns, it doesn't have to be more than 8 strands. Would REALLY appreciate it, since I found absolutely NO info on this subject. Thanx!