Members ramrod Posted October 21, 2011 Members Report Posted October 21, 2011 i don't know how i missed this thread before. what a great bunch of info, wiz. i never knew what i didn't know about linen thread! not to hijack the OP's thread, but what would be an equivilant thread size (in linen) to #69 polyester? i'd like to buy some linen thread, but i don't want to be sewing with something the size of rope if i get it wrong. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 21, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 21, 2011 i don't know how i missed this thread before. what a great bunch of info, wiz. i never knew what i didn't know about linen thread! not to hijack the OP's thread, but what would be an equivilant thread size (in linen) to #69 polyester? i'd like to buy some linen thread, but i don't want to be sewing with something the size of rope if i get it wrong. I don't know of any such "linen" thread size. The closest organic thread would be 3 or 4 cord glace cotton, with a combined size of 20 or 24. I have a spool of 4 cord glace cotton, size 24, that looks like it is close to #69 bonded nylon. In comparison, my spools of 4 cord linen thread are closer to #277 bonded thread. The smallest commercial size of "linen" thread I know about is Barbour's 3 cord. This is about the same thickness as #138, or #207. Keep in mind that cotton and linen thread need to be waxed to achieve maximum strength. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members ramrod Posted October 21, 2011 Members Report Posted October 21, 2011 i was under the impression that 5 or 6 cord linen was about the same as #69 polyester. i use the polyester exclusively in hand sewing, but, like i said, i'd like to find the same size in linen. wiz, you're saying that the 3 cord linen is actually LARGER than #69 poly? (if i understand that correctly) Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 21, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 21, 2011 i was under the impression that 5 or 6 cord linen was about the same as #69 polyester. i use the polyester exclusively in hand sewing, but, like i said, i'd like to find the same size in linen. wiz, you're saying that the 3 cord linen is actually LARGER than #69 poly? (if i understand that correctly) Yes, 3 cord linen is larger than #69 bonded nylon, or polyester. 6 cord linen is as thick as bonded #346. I don't use 3 cord any more, so I can't compare it to my bonded thread. But, when I did use 3 cord Barbour's, it was about the same size as #138 bonded nylon. I used a #1 needle and #1.5 awl to sew with it. My 4 cord linen is close to the width of my #277 bonded. I'd say is is between #207 and 277. I use a #1.5 or 2 needle with a #2 or 2.5 awl for these threads. In contrast, I need a #3 needle and #3.5 awl to sew with #346 bonded, or 6 cord linen thread. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members ramrod Posted October 21, 2011 Members Report Posted October 21, 2011 wow! i'm glad i asked. looks like it's 3 cord for hand stitching for me. thank you, wiz. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 21, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 21, 2011 Perhaps there is some confusion as to the width of #69 bonded thread. It is about the thickness of heavy fish line. It's diameter is 0.0115 In Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 21, 2011 Moderator Report Posted October 21, 2011 According to one chart I just read, 3 cord Barbour's linen thread is the equivalent diameter of bonded #207. It needs to be waxed for best hold and lifespan. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members blink1688 Posted September 19, 2017 Members Report Posted September 19, 2017 My goodness, thank you for this post. It may be 6 years old but I found it very helpful. Quote
Members DJole Posted September 20, 2017 Members Report Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, blink1688 said: My goodness, thank you for this post. It may be 6 years old but I found it very helpful. It looks like you are in Ohio, so you can easily get waxed linen thread at Royalwood Ltd., in Mansfield, Ohio. Website here: https://www.royalwoodltd.com/ I've ordered from them before, with good results. Lots of good color selection! Quote \D. Jole \ --> <http://djole.altervista.org/djole/Publications/Leather/Lindex.htm>
Members SamSeitler Posted October 11, 2017 Members Report Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/21/2011 at 6:08 PM, Wizcrafts said: Yes, 3 cord linen is larger than #69 bonded nylon, or polyester. 6 cord linen is as thick as bonded #346. I don't use 3 cord any more, so I can't compare it to my bonded thread. But, when I did use 3 cord Barbour's, it was about the same size as #138 bonded nylon. I used a #1 needle and #1.5 awl to sew with it. My 4 cord linen is close to the width of my #277 bonded. I'd say is is between #207 and 277. I use a #1.5 or 2 needle with a #2 or 2.5 awl for these threads. In contrast, I need a #3 needle and #3.5 awl to sew with #346 bonded, or 6 cord linen thread. Wiz, I just purchased a CB3200 to sew leather straps onto heavy canvas backpacks. Everything I make is plastic free, so I don't use polyester thread. Any suggestions on linen thread for this machine? Quote
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