Members Warpe Posted October 11, 2011 Members Report Posted October 11, 2011 SO, just finished my first holster in Vinagaroon.....nice deep black......sewed it all up.......got it all nice and damp for forming......... Slowly pushed the Sig P220 into the holster........ You got it......1/8 of an inch off.....mmmmmm....the exact measurement of the leather thickness.............. Needless to say, the Sig only made it part way in before it jammed out! Thought i would post this as a reminder to double check your measurement and not end up with a nice looking holster that is just that.....nice looking Quote Where quality and comfort come together one stitch at a time. www.gallantgunleather.com
Members Rayban Posted October 12, 2011 Members Report Posted October 12, 2011 "nice and damp"???? try getting it WET.......GOOD and wet......dripping wet-noodle wet......and try it again......if you're gonna make it over anywayz, it's worth a try (?) Quote Raybanwww.rgleather.net
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted October 12, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted October 12, 2011 I had that happen with a full coverage belt slide for a 226. It ticked me off the point that I grabbed a few square-ish tools, and started stretching leather. The really fun way....you know, put a block on each side, then drive a wedge down between them? I stretched it 'til it tried to Moo again. Then I put the pistol in it and finished boning it. I let it mostly dry, then put the pistol BACK in it and molded some more. When I was satisfied that it was done being ornery, I put it on the drying rack. The end result is a leather belt slide that actually *clicks* when the pistol is fully holstered. Good retention, good release with a sharp tug. Break out the tools and see if you can convince it to give up the eighth inch. Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members Shooter McGavin Posted October 12, 2011 Members Report Posted October 12, 2011 yup, super soak it and try again. use carnuba wax if needed lol. doesnt cost anything to try. Quote Zlogonje Gunleathers
KAYAK45 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Don't be hard on yourself Warpe. It's only 1/8th. Grind the gun down! Duh! Kevin Quote Once believed in GOD and the DOllAR...... Hello God!
Members Nooj Posted October 12, 2011 Members Report Posted October 12, 2011 I feel your pain... I had the same thing happen recently. The guy I made it for happened to have a pistol that was slightly smaller than the one the holster was intended for; So now he's getting two holsters- the one I made too small, and the one I'm gonna make the right size. I think I was off by a 1/4... Nooj Quote
Members katsass Posted October 12, 2011 Members Report Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) SO, just finished my first holster in Vinagaroon.....nice deep black......sewed it all up.......got it all nice and damp for forming......... Slowly pushed the Sig P220 into the holster........ You got it......1/8 of an inch off.....mmmmmm....the exact measurement of the leather thickness.............. Needless to say, the Sig only made it part way in before it jammed out! Thought i would post this as a reminder to double check your measurement and not end up with a nice looking holster that is just that.....nice looking FWIW: As said more than once...soak that puppy down..... wet noodle wet and FORCE it. The leather should go and after molding, you'll have not wasted leather nor time. A plasic freezer bag helps the gun slide over the leather. Mike Edited October 12, 2011 by katsass Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Members particle Posted October 12, 2011 Members Report Posted October 12, 2011 I've only worked with Vinegaroon twice. The most recent one came out fine (for a revolver, and had very little forming), but the first one was a lesson in workflow... I don't know exactly what/how it works, but it's my understanding that Vinegaroon makes the leather almost water resistant because the properties of the leather have been altered. You will definitely have to soak it a very long time for the water to penetrate, but even then, I'd worry that you won't be able to effectively mold the holster. In my opinion, your best bet might be to start over, and apply the vinegaroon (instead of water) when you wet the leather for forming, or wait until after it's been formed (with water), and completely dried and hardened. Quote Eric Adamswww.adamsleatherworks.com | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram
Members Warpe Posted October 12, 2011 Author Members Report Posted October 12, 2011 Thanks for all the support and ideas to make the cow submit to torture, but alas....my mis-stitch is my downfall. I tried the super wet noodle approach with no success. I concur with you Particle, Vinagaroon definitely adds some serious water resistance to the leather! The good news is this holster will be useable for another auto....just not the one it was designed for .... sigh. Quote Where quality and comfort come together one stitch at a time. www.gallantgunleather.com
Members JoelR Posted October 16, 2011 Members Report Posted October 16, 2011 If you are only 1/8" off as you say, you aren't trying hard enough. I've literally hammered handguns into their too-tight holsters in the past (relax, they were my handguns and not a customer's). As others have stated, they usually end up with the best 'feel' when all is said and done. Quote By the end of the show you start telling them you keep a few head of steers behind the house and go out and carve off a strip when you need it, it grows back in 5 or 6 weeks. - Art JR
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