Members mandyregal Posted October 13, 2011 Members Report Posted October 13, 2011 Hi, I'm lacing a purse together and I'm having trouble keeping the lace inside the jumbo permalock needle. Here's what I have been doing. I skive the last inch of my lace down to approx half the width. Then I cut a taper in the end and twist it up in there. Everything is fine until I try to go through 4 thicknesses of leather where the tab holds the D ring to the purse. The lace always slips out of the needle. I try not to pull the lace, and I've widened the holes that are giving me trouble with a stylus. Any of you old timers have any tips to share? Thanks!! Quote
Ambassador Luke Hatley Posted October 13, 2011 Ambassador Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Hi, I'm lacing a purse together and I'm having trouble keeping the lace inside the jumbo permalock needle. Here's what I have been doing. I skive the last inch of my lace down to approx half the width. Then I cut a taper in the end and twist it up in there. Everything is fine until I try to go through 4 thicknesses of leather where the tab holds the D ring to the purse. The lace always slips out of the needle. I try not to pull the lace, and I've widened the holes that are giving me trouble with a stylus. Any of you old timers have any tips to share? Thanks!! Forget the permalock needle and get the Life eye regular lacing needle. Edited October 13, 2011 by Luke Hatley Quote Luke
electrathon Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Forget the permalock needle and get the Life eye regular lacing needle. What he said:16: Round needles are good for round lace, flat needles are great for flat lace. http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/en-usd/search/searchresults/1194-032.aspx I have never understood the logic of tying to use those horrid, huge round needles. Get the correct needles and lacing becomes fun. Aaron Quote
Contributing Member ClayB Posted October 13, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted October 13, 2011 Don't skive the lace down when using the perma lock needle, just taper it so you screw it into the needle. If you skive it down, it doesn't have the thickness it needs to hold tight in the threads. That's the only needles I use. I have good luck with them and cant imagine using the other ones. What works for one of us doesn't necessarily work for everyone, that doesn't mean they don't work. Quote ClayB Badlands Leather Art blog Badlands Leather Art Website
Members katsass Posted October 13, 2011 Members Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Forget the permalock needle and get the Life eye regular lacing needle. Luke, A question from a grumpy old guy; Where in hell do you find Life Eye needles? I have looked all over for the things since mine (about 20 yrs old) disappeared. The PermaLoc needles are too damned big ! Even their smallest. Mike Edited October 13, 2011 by katsass Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
electrathon Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Luke, A question from a grumpy old guy; Where in hell do you find Life Eye needles? I have looked all over for the things since mine (about 20 yrs old) disappeared. The PermaLoc needles are too damned big ! Even their smallest. Mike There was a link in my post above: http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/en-usd/search/searchresults/1194-032.aspx Tandy calls them lok-eye. Have to agree. They are way too big for normal lacing. If you are using grosly oversized round holes like Tandy punches in kits they work. Go to normal lacing sized slots and they are a bad dream happening. Aaron Quote
Members katsass Posted October 14, 2011 Members Report Posted October 14, 2011 There was a link in my post above: http://www.tandyleat...s/1194-032.aspx Tandy calls them lok-eye. Have to agree. They are way too big for normal lacing. If you are using grosly oversized round holes like Tandy punches in kits they work. Go to normal lacing sized slots and they are a bad dream happening. Aaron Aaron, thanks for the reply, BUT, those are not the Life Eye. I have at least a dozen of the split prong flat needles, but the old Life Eye were the best lacing needle I ever had. Like I said, my last one was about 20 years old, but somehow disappeared. Mike Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Phatdaddy Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 My first thought is that the original poster is using latigo type lace and the perma lock needle. I could be mistaken. Quote
Members katsass Posted October 14, 2011 Members Report Posted October 14, 2011 Hi, I'm lacing a purse together and I'm having trouble keeping the lace inside the jumbo permalock needle. Here's what I have been doing. I skive the last inch of my lace down to approx half the width. Then I cut a taper in the end and twist it up in there. Everything is fine until I try to go through 4 thicknesses of leather where the tab holds the D ring to the purse. The lace always slips out of the needle. I try not to pull the lace, and I've widened the holes that are giving me trouble with a stylus. Any of you old timers have any tips to share? Thanks!! In a pinch Mandy, I have cut a looong taper on the tip of my lace, covered it with 'super glue' (both sided) for about an inch and allow to dry. I then carefully insert the stiffened lace tip into the hole and pull through with a pair of smooth jawed pliers. I use a (dull) awl as a fid to lift the lace for going under a stitch, and ease the lace tip under far enough to grasp with the pliers. Mike Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Scary Leatherworks Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 I use the perma-lock needles and I don't have much problem. It's already been said but cut a long taper so you can get more into the needle and don't skive it. I used the lok-eye needles when I first started but the lace never stayed in it for me and the lock side was always sprung after putting the lace in a few times. I'm sure it was more operator error at the time but I switched needles and haven't ever re-tried the others again Quote
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