Members Sixer Posted January 4, 2012 Members Report Posted January 4, 2012 I've been wanting to make a holster for myself and I think I've finally decided on the basic style. Problem is I've never attempted this style before, so I'm hoping to get a little help before I start wasting leather. The OWB with snap on loops... seems simple enough but I've never seen one on a belt or with the loops un-snapped. So I'm curious, how do you guys attach the belt loops? I'm assuming it's similar to an IWB with belt loops but I cant quite seem to wrap my tiny brain around it. Here is a pic of the style I'm talking about.... I appreciate any help! Thanks Quote http://www.hoppcustomleather.com https://www.facebook.com/HoppCustomLeather
Members Dwight Posted January 4, 2012 Members Report Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Sixer, . . . If I'm doing that holster (I don't, . . . don't like the design, . . . personal flaw, I know), . . . first you cut out 5 pieces: back, front, left loop, right loop, and front vanity piece. Cut the straps purposely at least one inch too long. Sew the vanity piece on. Wet the front, . . . lay it on the gun, . . . laying on the back, . . . mold the front, . . . let it dry. Cut the front to match the back, . . . back to match the front, . . . whichever works for you. Punch holes for the snaps in the FRONT piece of leather only, . . . then punch the left/right straps. Mount the male piece of snap to the strap and the front piece, . . . hammer/peen in place. Glue, . . . sand the edges, . . . stitch gouge, . . . sew, . . . dye, . . . burnish, . . . final finish, Put the thing on, . . . pull straps over and under the belt, . . . with the inside of the strap very lightly moistened, . . . squeeze it together, . . . you have the impression of where you need to punch the hole for the female and decorative part of the snap. Mount rest of snap, . . . bag, . . . sell, . . . spend profit on ice cream. May God bless, Dwight PS: Whoops, . . . forgot about the sewn edges of straps, . . . you'll have to modify that measurement process, . . . do it earlier. Just don't put the outside parts of the snaps on before you dye and finish, . . . dye and finish CAN make the pretty part of the snaps not look so pretty. Edited January 4, 2012 by Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members malabar Posted January 4, 2012 Members Report Posted January 4, 2012 Sixer, . . . If I'm doing that holster (I don't, . . . don't like the design, . . . personal flaw, I know), . . . first you cut out 5 pieces: back, front, left loop, right loop, and front vanity piece. Cut the straps purposely at least one inch too long. Sew the vanity piece on. Wet the front, . . . lay it on the gun, . . . laying on the back, . . . mold the front, . . . let it dry. Cut the front to match the back, . . . back to match the front, . . . whichever works for you. Punch holes for the snaps in the FRONT piece of leather only, . . . then punch the left/right straps. Mount the male piece of snap to the strap and the front piece, . . . hammer/peen in place. Glue, . . . sand the edges, . . . stitch gouge, . . . sew, . . . dye, . . . burnish, . . . final finish, Put the thing on, . . . pull straps over and under the belt, . . . with the inside of the strap very lightly moistened, . . . squeeze it together, . . . you have the impression of where you need to punch the hole for the female and decorative part of the snap. Mount rest of snap, . . . bag, . . . sell, . . . spend profit on ice cream. May God bless, Dwight PS: Whoops, . . . forgot about the sewn edges of straps, . . . you'll have to modify that measurement process, . . . do it earlier. Just don't put the outside parts of the snaps on before you dye and finish, . . . dye and finish CAN make the pretty part of the snaps not look so pretty. Dwight is it that you don't like about the style? tk Quote
Members Dwight Posted January 4, 2012 Members Report Posted January 4, 2012 Malabar, . . . I come from old school military, . . . your weapon and you are one, never leave each other, tighly knitted, . . . etc. This type holster will IMHO in time become somewhat floppy, . . . the normal nature of leather, given time, . . . and the back will begin to flex to where the gun will not be as securely held in as it was when the holster was new. A pancake with belt slots OTOH, . . . holds the back of the holster from moving on the belt, . . . something I am not sure this design would do. Call me a bit paranoid, . . . I just refuse to put something out there where I can see myself, . . . a propensity for future problems. Take as a case in point the fellow a few months back who had a Glock in an older, floppy leather, holster. He sat down, . . . started to buckle in the passenger side of his car, . . . shifted his butt a bit, . . . BOOM. His holster had become old, floppy, and he didn't properly observe what was going on. As a result, he shot his own rear/leg, . . . a hole in his car seat, . . . his floor board, . . . and has been the "butt" of many jokes since. I try to look ahead, . . . anticipate those type of problems, . . . head them off at the pass, if I can. ANY holster I make for a Glock or similar striker fired weapon has a fully enclosed, . . . hard formed, . . . trigger guard, . . . or I don't make it, . . . and I won't sell it. Just like also, . . . Small Of the Back holsters, . . . I don't make em. Anyway, . . . that's just me, . . . May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Dwight Posted January 4, 2012 Members Report Posted January 4, 2012 Malabar, . . . I come from old school military, . . . your weapon and you are one, never leave each other, tighly knitted, . . . etc. This type holster will IMHO in time become somewhat floppy, . . . the normal nature of leather, given time, . . . and the back will begin to flex to where the gun will not be as securely held in as it was when the holster was new. A pancake with belt slots OTOH, . . . holds the back of the holster from moving on the belt, . . . something I am not sure this design would do. Call me a bit paranoid, . . . I just refuse to put something out there where I can see myself, . . . a propensity for future problems. Take as a case in point the fellow a few months back who had a Glock in an older, floppy leather, holster. He sat down, . . . started to buckle in the passenger side of his car, . . . shifted his butt a bit, . . . BOOM. His holster had become old, floppy, and he didn't properly observe what was going on. As a result, he shot his own rear/leg, . . . a hole in his car seat, . . . his floor board, . . . and has been the "butt" of many jokes since. I try to look ahead, . . . anticipate those type of problems, . . . head them off at the pass, if I can. ANY holster I make for a Glock or similar striker fired weapon has a fully enclosed, . . . hard formed, . . . trigger guard, . . . or I don't make it, . . . and I won't sell it. Just like also, . . . Small Of the Back holsters, . . . I don't make em. Anyway, . . . that's just me, . . . May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members jlaudio29 Posted January 5, 2012 Members Report Posted January 5, 2012 That incident you refer to, the person was using a UNIVERSAL holster that glock makes to fit a ton of differnt gun so the fitment to beginwith is very slopy, on top of the the position of the belt being on the outside, making it an inside the BELT holster put extra tension on an already universal holster that traditionally started flat from the manufacturer, so everytime you take your gun in and out of the holster its opening and collapsing softening up the leather, turning it into a wet noodle, on top of that we do not know if this guy tried to "take care" of his holster but putting oil into it. Its a very bad example to use to make your point. that guy and that product is wrong in so many levels and in no way shape or form relates or compares to any custom molded holster. Its a POS product bottom line, and negligence by the operator. Quote
Members Steven Kelley Posted January 5, 2012 Members Report Posted January 5, 2012 I make one of that style. The way I make it, the straps are part of the front half of the holster. They wrap over the top and around the belt, snapping back onto themselves in the center. The loops aren't a separate piece. It's really a pretty simple design. If making for a 1.5" belt, just make an extension on each side of the holster slightly wider than the belt. The front half of the holster will have the loops. I'm not looking at my pattern, but if I remember correctly, the measurements are about 4-5/16" from snap center to snap center. There is a t-nut sandwiched between the 2 layers to fasten the snap stud to. Here is a pic. Quote
Members Shooter McGavin Posted January 5, 2012 Members Report Posted January 5, 2012 When I make that style, I cut the straps onto the front piece of the pattern, extending down the same as the gun profile. This one however, I tried with the the straps facing upwards. I felt it wasted more leather so I started doing them straps down after this. Quote Zlogonje Gunleathers
Members mattsh Posted January 5, 2012 Members Report Posted January 5, 2012 I do the loops the same as Mr Kelley and Shooter. Quote "Courage brother, do not stumble, though thy path be dark as night: There is a star to guide the humble, trust in God, and do the right. Let the road be dark and dreary and its end far out of sight. Face it bravely, strong or weary. Trust God, and do the right." - General Norman Schwarzkopf
Members Sixer Posted January 5, 2012 Author Members Report Posted January 5, 2012 Awesome stuff guys! That really helps me get a grasp on the final pattern. I may not end up making this one for myself... but it would be nice to have it as an option for others. Does anyone happen to have a pic of the holster with the belt loops unsnapped? Thanks again for all the great info! Quote http://www.hoppcustomleather.com https://www.facebook.com/HoppCustomLeather
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