Leather Burnishers On Ebay

[Kimmee]

Chris, I got a set of your burnishers about a year ago and use them all the time and LOVE them. I hope you get this sorted out to your satisfaction and sooner than later.

If you need any help, looks like you have quite a few folks on here and on Facebook that are willing to step up to the plate for you.

Best of luck and please keep us posted as to the progress.

~ Kim

[gunter]

I find it ashaùe that soùmeone steals an idea from someone else with althering anything or even making a personal change, no ethic to and for the craft at all.

What do you charge for a burnisher anyway? I'll need one in the future.

Gunter

PS u got my support.

[Art]

Hi Chris,

I don't think you can complain about this. The product at the link you provided is such a poor attempt to copy your "holster makers special" that it bears not much resemblance to yours. It appears to me that he doesn't really understand the use of the product and obviously doesn't possess the capabilities required for small turnings. While I could at best call it an interpretation of your design, execution fell way short.

Art

I am so outraged by this that I am making a post. Should the Admins feel the need to delete it, so be it but I need to get this off my chest.

Silvia brought to my attention today some burnishers that are being sold on ebay that look almost exactly like mine. I say almost as it appears from their pictures that the party in question couldn't quite get the tips turned correctly.

Any of my clients that own a "Holster Maker's Special" will recognize the difference and inferior work from the pictures.

Now, normally I don't mind competition and in fact will often invite someone to give my other hobby, woodturning a spin.

I have even given folks that can turn tips on making themselves a burnisher. NEVER have I said, "hey, purchase one of my burnishers that I spent a good deal of time and research developing and then turn identical ones to sell on ebay as your own design..." Not once.

It happened though. On August 4th, 2011 Mr. Richard Loy of Herriman, Utah spoke to me on the phone and purchased one of my HMS Burnishers, a few weeks later he purchased a dremel burnisher as well. I recall speaking to him with tips on burnishing, etc and have receipts showing the purchases.

On December 24, 2011 Mr. Loy, aka highcountryoutfitter on ebay began selling replicas of my specific burnishers. He made no attempt to alter the design or to contact me regarding selling them or to give me credit for the design.

In other words, he is a THIEF and a LIAR and I feel that folks should know what kind of person they could potentially be dealing with.

Here is a link to one of the ebay listings in question: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leather-burnisher-leather-tool-cocobolo-11-/290656674647?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ac7ce357

Thank you Sylvia for bringing this to my attention.

Chris

[Suicide]

Chris,

My 2 cents: You should be proud of yourself as your tools appeared to be so great so somebody other start to produce copycats. Nobody will try to repro crap.

And more your original tools will go up, more highjackers will try to build theirs copycat.

One day you'll discover full of aliexpress.com is full of chinese replicas of yours stuff and then you understand it is kinda tribute to that great job and tons of efforts you put into your stuff.

So take it easy and look from the positive point of view.

As long as somebody wants doing something like you did - you are the best.

Cheers!

[King's X]

Apparently, he has now taken on Gary's burnishers as well. I wonder if he purchased a set from Gary before as well.

[rondon112]

I am so outraged by this that I am making a post. Should the Admins feel the need to delete it, so be it but I need to get this off my chest.

Silvia brought to my attention today some burnishers that are being sold on ebay that look almost exactly like mine. I say almost as it appears from their pictures that the party in question couldn't quite get the tips turned correctly.

Any of my clients that own a "Holster Maker's Special" will recognize the difference and inferior work from the pictures.

Now, normally I don't mind competition and in fact will often invite someone to give my other hobby, woodturning a spin.

I have even given folks that can turn tips on making themselves a burnisher. NEVER have I said, "hey, purchase one of my burnishers that I spent a good deal of time and research developing and then turn identical ones to sell on ebay as your own design..." Not once.

It happened though. On August 4th, 2011 Mr. Richard Loy of Herriman, Utah spoke to me on the phone and purchased one of my HMS Burnishers, a few weeks later he purchased a dremel burnisher as well. I recall speaking to him with tips on burnishing, etc and have receipts showing the purchases.

On December 24, 2011 Mr. Loy, aka highcountryoutfitter on ebay began selling replicas of my specific burnishers. He made no attempt to alter the design or to contact me regarding selling them or to give me credit for the design.

In other words, he is a THIEF and a LIAR and I feel that folks should know what kind of person they could potentially be dealing with.

Here is a link to one of the ebay listings in question: [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leather-burnisher-leather-tool-cocobolo-11-/290656674647?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ac7ce357]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leather-burnisher-leather-tool-cocobolo-11-/290656674647?

Thank you Sylvia for bringing this to my attention.

Chris

Chris

I am glad you posted this as I was about to buy one since you were not taking Orders. Put me down for a custom holster model when you are back in production. Just send me a PM and payment info.

Thanks, Ron.

Edited January 16, 2012 by rondon112

[TomG]

I am so outraged by this that I am making a post. Should the Admins feel the need to delete it, so be it but I need to get this off my chest.

Silvia brought to my attention today some burnishers that are being sold on ebay that look almost exactly like mine. I say almost as it appears from their pictures that the party in question couldn't quite get the tips turned correctly.

Any of my clients that own a "Holster Maker's Special" will recognize the difference and inferior work from the pictures.

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Chris

I actually looked at his before I looked at yours and saw the difference in quality just from the photos. That and the fact that you have a website. I do not like to buy on eBay if I can help it.

TO ALL: I just received a set of Chris's burnishers today, and I can personally attest to his quality, integrety and over the top customer service.

He's A+ in my book.

Thanks for a great product Chris.

Tom

Legacy Leathercraft

[BearMan]

Hi Chris,

I feel your pain. On a whole, I've found "True" Leather people to be very honest & trustworthy, with high morals. This just proves that this person is not a true leather person! I just won't do anything like that. I've had several people ask me about making the same type of burnishers that you make,,, I always turn them down, & refer them to you. Before I started making my "BBS" (Bob Beard Special) mauls, I asked Bob Beard if he would give me permission to put that design out there. Luckily, he gave me his permission, & send me customers quite often.

By making inferior copies of your work, just shows that this is not an honorable person. Luckily most of us true leather people are honorable enough to know that doing something like that is just Wrong!!

Good Luck,,, Ed the"BearMan"

[cleveland]

I got my second burnisher from Chris a few days ago. Absolutely love them!!!

Thanks again!

[pabloz]

Apparently, he has now taken on Gary's burnishers as well. I wonder if he purchased a set from Gary before as well.

Sam,

Show em what YOU got on ebay.

PZ