Decent Swing Away Edge Guide?

[Wizcrafts]

Hi, I was looking back at this old post and I notice that the swing down guide that you have in the picture is attached to a 441 clone. Where did you get this particular guide?

Andrew

Here's mine, which I got from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines:

It came with two screws that had to be drilled and tapped into the back of the head. Some 441s already have these holes drilled and just need to have them tapped. The design began on the Adler 205 models.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Wizcrafts

[Andrew Chee]

Here's mine, which I got from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines:

It came with two screws that had to be drilled and tapped into the back of the head. Some 441s already have these holes drilled and just need to have them tapped. The design began on the Adler 205 models.

I purchased one of the Kwok Hing ones that I'm going to put on a different machine. It was marked as compatible with an Adler 205. I tried to put it on the Toro 3000 and the spacing wasn't correct. It wouldn't reach the bed of the machine even when extended all the way. The other thing was the mounting area interferes with the function of the foot lift lever. Do you have that problem with the guide getting in the way of the lever?

Andrew

[leatherkind]

Mine was interfering with the lift handle. I solved the problem by lowering the guide as much as possible and grinding a bit of the handle off.

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=34113&view=findpost&p=215041

[TomG]

Here's mine, which I got from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines:

It came with two screws that had to be drilled and tapped into the back of the head. Some 441s already have these holes drilled and just need to have them tapped. The design began on the Adler 205 models.

Are any of these machines that have been discussed clones of, or similar to, the old Singer 111W155?

Tom

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

I get a lot of questions about these swing away roller guides. I stock/sell them for ALL model machines, and will custom setup a kit to send out for your machine. Some machines have provisions for install, some have to have holes drilled and tapped. Each machine model will differ on install.

This setup seen here is on a Consew 2050 (Adler 205 clone) we have setup, and comes with all hardware and tools necessary to install. Check out the youtube I made, so you can see this in action;

Swing away guide Installed on Consew 2050 (Adler 205)

[TomG]

Ok That explains it, 22 $ @ Kwokhing.com. ( you can use the Pfaff guide for your machine)

Trox

I emailed them for a quote for one for a Singer 111w155 and they "were not familiar with that machine".

Does anyone know which of their listed guides are for one of the Singer clones?

Thanks

Tom

[Trox]

Hi Tom,

Many Singers are clones themselves. Who cloned whom, that is the big question. These days it is very few Singer clones.

If your machine is without threaded holes on the backside. (I guess it is, no dropdown guides where invented when that Singer was born)

I believe you can use the universal Pfaff bracket and guide. The installation enquires some mechanical skills.

I promised before to post here when I had installed both my new Drop down guides. I bought two sets of suspending guides from kwokhing.com, one for my Dürkopp Adler 267 and the other for my Pfaff 345.

I already showed pictures of the 267 installation. It is an almost new machine and has threaded holes on the backside for installing the guide; all it needed was a custom-made bracket to fit the guide. The suspending guide KG767B, $ 22,-, and the bracket KB267 $ 5, 80. http://www.kwokhing.com/adler/da_guide.htm

The older Pfaff 345-H3 has no holes for guide installation. In the pictures, you see how I drilled and threaded the two holes needed for the installation.

The guide I bought for the Pfaff is called; KG1245. It is made to fit the Pfaff classes; 1245, 335 and more.

The set contains a universal bracket that can be attached to almost any machine type. Your Singer head is very similar to the pfaff, (except for the bed). I am sure you will find some material to drill in on the backside of your machine too.

The KG1245 set contains the guide KG867 (who also fit Dürkopp Adler 867,767,467 and 267 and more). A universal bracket to fit many Pfaff machines (other brands too), a straight guide and the roller guide http://www.kwokhing.com/pfaff/pfaff_guide.htm. The price was $ 25, 90

The tools you need for the job is:

A caliper or micrometer, drill machine, one 3, 5 mm and one 4, 2 mm high quality drill bits. A set of M5x0, 8 threading taps (the set contains three taps) and some cutting oil.

I started to measure out where I needed to fix the guide.

The holes need to be at least 8 mm deep, make sure there is enough material where you need to drill.

I will not hold any crash course in threading, if you are unfamiliar with this job. Read up on the subject, and find something else to train on. Make your training similar to the job, it easy to thread apiece vertical, it is a more difficult job done horizontal. (The Guide in the picture is the one I bought for the Adler. I switched the guides because I liked the “Pfaff” guide better. Both guides will fit the Pfaff universal bracket. See my earlier post to see the guide in the KB1245 set). The pictures will tell the rest of the story.

Good luck

Trox

I emailed them for a quote for one for a Singer 111w155 and they "were not familiar with that machine".

Does anyone know which of their listed guides are for one of the Singer clones?

Thanks

Tom

[Uwe]

I recently installed an edge guide on my Pfaff 335. I bought the guide through eBay from Nick-O Sew for around $90. The edge guide looks to be a Kwokhing and is actually a very nicely done guide. It also needed a bracket to attach to the Pfaff 335. Alas, I cannot bring myself to drill holes in these machines. I figured out a solution using existing holes and making a little custom bracket from a scrap piece of aluminum. It worked out quite nicely, fits under the cover panels and does not interfere with with anything. I'm attaching some pictures that hopefully show how I did this.