watersnake Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Australia calling, I have seen fully carved saddles done in the sheridan style floral , Could anyone tell me where on line I could get large patterns for the floral work on a project this size . The only patterns I have found are for notebooks , billfolds . I would like something for a large hand bag or saddle bags . Also are there any craftaids out there with the sheridan floral Thanks Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tina Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Australia calling, I have seen fully carved saddles done in the sheridan style floral , Could anyone tell me where on line I could get large patterns for the floral work on a project this size . The only patterns I have found are for notebooks , billfolds . I would like something for a large hand bag or saddle bags . Also are there any craftaids out there with the sheridan floral Thanks Ron There is manny old big patterns, handbags, travelbags etc around, every now and again you'll find them on Ebay. Some of them do not come cheap but you can always resell them (after making your own copy of course). I have one for a saddle as well so keep your eyes open and I wish you Good Luck :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Nelson Report post Posted February 21, 2012 There is manny old big patterns, handbags, travelbags etc around, every now and again you'll find them on Ebay. Some of them do not come cheap but you can always resell them (after making your own copy of course). I have one for a saddle as well so keep your eyes open and I wish you Good Luck :-) Most people draw their own patterns and there are several good books available to help you learn it. Check the tandy web site, and Chan Geer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Blea Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Hi Watersnake, I get the Leather Crafters and Saddlers Journal and they often have articles with carving patters. Usually their patterns consist of specific parts of the saddle (a fender for example) but I think they have covered all the various parts of the saddle at one time or another. They are a great resource for different styles of carving patters. You might be able to find a collection of back issues on eBay. Also, the journal sells copies of back issues. They may be able to recommend issues they have in stock that cover saddle or saddle bag carving patterns. The Journal can be reached at this link: http://www.leathercraftersjournal.com/ Hope this helps, Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tina Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Most people draw their own patterns and there are several good books available to help you learn it. Check the tandy web site, and Chan Geer. Many, many people is artistically challenged and would probbably not ask for alreaddy made patterns if they could draw and feel comfortable with it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watersnake Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Hi Watersnake, I get the Leather Crafters and Saddlers Journal and they often have articles with carving patters. Usually their patterns consist of specific parts of the saddle (a fender for example) but I think they have covered all the various parts of the saddle at one time or another. They are a great resource for different styles of carving patters. You might be able to find a collection of back issues on eBay. Also, the journal sells copies of back issues. They may be able to recommend issues they have in stock that cover saddle or saddle bag carving patterns. The Journal can be reached at this link: http://www.leathercraftersjournal.com/ Hope this helps, Bob Thanks again Bob , also while I'm here ,I was reading Sheridan Style carving by Bill Gardner and Clinton Fay , in it they say to put neatsfoot oil on after the carving is finished , before the antique is applied .. Could I use Fiebings milk oil instead .. Thanks mate Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Blea Report post Posted February 22, 2012 Thanks again Bob , also while I'm here ,I was reading Sheridan Style carving by Bill Gardner and Clinton Fay , in it they say to put neatsfoot oil on after the carving is finished , before the antique is applied .. Could I use Fiebings milk oil instead .. Thanks mate Ron I'd never heard of this product so I just looked it up on the Feibings website. I found Feibings Mink Oil liquid and it looks like it has Neatsfoot oil in it but it also has stuff to waterproof the leather, so I think it would block antiques or dyes if they are water based. I but Neatsfoot oil on after carving and before antiques or dyes, and the idea is to restore some of the natural oils the leather has lost in working the material. I think the mink oil would mess up your finishing steps that come later. You could try it on a small scrap piece to see how much trouble it will be. I think the mink oil might be a good final finish. You might try asking in the finishing forum to see if anyone there has experiece with it. The Sheridan Style book is a great resource. I really learned a lot from it and still refer to it. Let me know how the mink oil works out. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watersnake Report post Posted February 23, 2012 I'd never heard of this product so I just looked it up on the Feibings website. I found Feibings Mink Oil liquid and it looks like it has Neatsfoot oil in it but it also has stuff to waterproof the leather, so I think it would block antiques or dyes if they are water based. I but Neatsfoot oil on after carving and before antiques or dyes, and the idea is to restore some of the natural oils the leather has lost in working the material. I think the mink oil would mess up your finishing steps that come later. You could try it on a small scrap piece to see how much trouble it will be. I think the mink oil might be a good final finish. You might try asking in the finishing forum to see if anyone there has experiece with it. The Sheridan Style book is a great resource. I really learned a lot from it and still refer to it. Let me know how the mink oil works out. Bob Thanks Bob. I think I'll stick with the neatsfoot and use the mink on the finish . Thanks again for you advice and help Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electrathon Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Many, many people is artistically challenged and would probably not ask for already made patterns if they could draw and feel comfortable with it... Tina, I am glad to see this statement from someone as talented as you are. It is incredibly frustrating to keep seeing people tell others to just draw their own patterns when they are trying to buy them. Pattern drawing is an art itself unrelated to leather carving. I have never heard the fabric store tell someone to draw their own shirt pattern when they are selling someone cloth, why would we tell a leather worker to draw their own pattern. Aaron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Blea Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Tina, I am glad to see this statement from someone as talented as you are. It is incredibly frustrating to keep seeing people tell others to just draw their own patterns when they are trying to buy them. Pattern drawing is an art itself unrelated to leather carving. I have never heard the fabric store tell someone to draw their own shirt pattern when they are selling someone cloth, why would we tell a leather worker to draw their own pattern. Aaron I'm with you guys. I'm still just trying to learn how to carve and what makes a good design. I would like to learn to draw my own patterns but I'm a loooong way from having that sort of understanding. Right now I'm happy if I can slightly adjust an existing pattern to make it fit on something and have it still look good. I'm a fan of the Northwest style of carving, and aside from the recent patterns and articles published by Jesse Smith, there aren't a lot of patterns out there. So, I'm trying to learn what makes a good design, but you're right, it's another field of artwork completely separate from carving leather. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tina Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Tina, I am glad to see this statement from someone as talented as you are. It is incredibly frustrating to keep seeing people tell others to just draw their own patterns when they are trying to buy them. Pattern drawing is an art itself unrelated to leather carving. I have never heard the fabric store tell someone to draw their own shirt pattern when they are selling someone cloth, why would we tell a leather worker to draw their own pattern. Aaron I am totally with you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites