Super Sheen Taking Off Dye1

[Bluesman]

Just did a belt. Used oil black dye. rub, rub, and then Oil/Beeswax mix for a finish. So far so good. But I have 12 quarts of Vinagaroon stting on the patio. I am ready to make dark stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mudruck]

I have fought black before as well. It doesn't seem to matter to me if it is Angelus, or Fiebings... The stuff just is nasty to work with. My first "black" project was awful. Rubbed off in places so I deglazed and tried again. It rubbed off again... I could see the color of the leather. I died it purple... that stuff also rubbed off. I died it navy... it rubbed off too. So I dyed it black one more time... let it dry two days out of frustration.... then put eco flo dark cocoa brown over it. It turned out black! What the??

Second time... it was Fiebings USMC black.... rubbed off. deglazed... put Fiebings OIL Black over it.... it rubbed off. or more precisely.... it moved around on the surface..

if rubbed in a different direction... it "hid" the see through. hmmm... So I oiled it one more time. Let that dry... then sprayed a coat of eco-flo black on it. Let that dry and then sprayed satin sheen. (no more rub off)

I find black to be so bad that I was tempted to charge an additional $75 per coat of the stuff.

So recently I brewed some vinegaroon. I stain with vinegaroon, then put oil over that... then black antique paste... then seal. And I'm still tempted to charge extra.....

Sylvia, I SOOO hear you on the extra charge for the black!! I've been tempted to do the same thing! I've gone to using multiple coats of USMC black when I use it. If I can vinegroon the thing it goes in the tank, but I have had issues with tooling fading a bit on a full dip sometimes.

[Eaglestroker]

The only issue I ever had was black was when I first started out. I don't know what changed but it's never been an issue since I switched from USMC Black ro Profession Oil Black.

I tried super sheen once. It made the whole holster bleed and stained my beautiful white stitches. That stuff when in the trash.

[katsass]

FWIW from the old grump; Back when --- I found that if I deglazed, then dyed prior to assembly, things worked a whole bunch better --- with Fiebing's Pro Oil dye. With black especially, I used to deglaze, dye, buff the snot out of the stuff, then redye and buff again as necessary, then go to assembly. Especially with black, but also with other colors, when applying any finish, the use of daubers, rags, brushes etc. seemed to want to do things I didn't like. An old Windex spray bottle and thinned acrylic finishes (NeatSheen, SuperSheen) seemed to solve that problem . I now use an airbrush to apply all finishes. For black, it's vinegaroon only --- now. Mike

Edited April 24, 2012 by katsass

[glockanator]

I buffed the hell out of it and redyed it let it sit over night and the sheened it.again so far no.problems! I have only used black.dye so.I can't weight in on the black vs other colors. I am pretty proud.of.now.it turned out post some pics later.

[steelhawk]

Nothing gives more relief than saving what looks like a ruined project.

[Mudruck]

Nothing gives more relief than saving what looks like a ruined project.

+1 to that!!!!

[glockanator]

[Bluesman]

Nice save

[Sylvia]

Nothing gives more relief than saving what looks like a ruined project.

That is the truth!

One of these days when I get down to dregs in the bottom of these dyes I have... I'm going to tie dye something leather. LOL