BoDill Report post Posted May 4, 2012 New member in search of new supplier. Back in the 60's, working my way through college making sandals, I used to get spectacular double butts from Marap in NY. Getting back in the business after retiring from 40 years of engineering, I bought the same leather from Hide House in their old San Dimas location. Hide house no longer handles that leather, and Marap doesn't list a website and they probably don't carry it any more. After using up the last 20 hides that I had, I have looked for another supplier with no luck. I have purchased double butts and double backs from Herman Oak, Zack White, and Weaver. Thought the leather is OK, it is not the same as the stuff I was using. For one, it was true "10 oz", measuring 0.16 inches thick with a micrometer. The hides averaged about 20 sq. ft.. On top of that, the flesh side was almost as smooth as the top grain, and the top grain was absolutely smooth all over with no bumps or skin lines. The best part was the way it cut and folded. It cut like butter, and you could fold it over without it cracking. I have no idea where to turn to get leather like this again, and I am terribly frustrated. Any suggestions? Thank you, Bo Dillingham Old Man Leather, LLC www.oldmanleather.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluesman Report post Posted May 4, 2012 Try Wickett & Craig http://www.wickett-craig.com/ I just got a side of skirting that I had cut from 10/12 to 8/9 no extra charge. I also bought the #1 grade which is there "Special". Beautiful top grain and very smooth flesh side. With shipping it comes out to about $8.25 per Sq. Ft. Mine was just over 25 Sq. Ft. They will send samples. Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoDill Report post Posted May 4, 2012 Try Wickett & Craig http://www.wickett-craig.com/ I just got a side of skirting that I had cut from 10/12 to 8/9 no extra charge. I also bought the #1 grade which is there "Special". Beautiful top grain and very smooth flesh side. With shipping it comes out to about $8.25 per Sq. Ft. Mine was just over 25 Sq. Ft. They will send samples. Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoDill Report post Posted May 4, 2012 Bluesman, Thank you for the quick reply. Actually, I already do business with Wickett and Craig, but they don't do double butts. Sides are fine for my handbags, but the Double butts were unbelievable for belts. BoDill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickeyfro Report post Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Ive gotten some nice ones from Zack Whites http://zackwhite.com...cat=1107&page=1 http://zackwhite.com/xcart/product.php?productid=20463&cat=1107&page=1 Edited May 4, 2012 by rickeyfro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mcox Report post Posted May 4, 2012 Try Roger Folmar- RJF Leather Co, He is in NY and if he doesnt have what your looking for he can point you in the right direction. He has a website and is an advertiser on this site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sylvia Report post Posted May 4, 2012 I'm wondering if the terminology is hosing you up. Like this image linked from RJF leather image Shows that they call the "hind end" of the hide as a "single bend" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoDill Report post Posted May 5, 2012 I'm wondering if the terminology is hosing you up. Like this image linked from RJF leather image Shows that they call the "hind end" of the hide as a "single bend" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoDill Report post Posted May 5, 2012 Sylvia, Technically you are correct; double bend and double butt are not identical terms, but both are used interchangeably in the industry. If you Google both terms, you will find pretty much the same responses. From now on, in any communications about this, I will use both terms in my letters, as either cut will work for me. Thank you for your reply, Bo Ive gotten some nice ones from Zack Whites http://zackwhite.com...cat=1107&page=1 http://zackwhite.com...cat=1107&page=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoDill Report post Posted May 5, 2012 Rickeyfro, Thank you for your quick reply. I have already gotten a couple double butts from Zack White. They are very close to what I am looking for, and if I can't find what I want, I will likely start using the ZW stuff. Bo Try Roger Folmar- RJF Leather Co, He is in NY and if he doesnt have what your looking for he can point you in the right direction. He has a website and is an advertiser on this site. Try Roger Folmar- RJF Leather Co, He is in NY and if he doesnt have what your looking for he can point you in the right direction. He has a website and is an advertiser on this site. Try Roger Folmar- RJF Leather Co, He is in NY and if he doesnt have what your looking for he can point you in the right direction. He has a website and is an advertiser on this site. Mcox, Thank you; I will contact RJF Leather soon. Bo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Hammerless Report post Posted May 5, 2012 Looking through the suppliers in Shop Talk Magazine, this is what I've found. Double K Leather Sales: http://doublekleather.com/ They import Sadesa leather. It doesn't show it on their website, but they list double butts in their ad in Shop Talk. Sho Tan: I don't believe they have a website. Their number is (800) 251-7288. They have double bends listed in their ad. Milton Sokol & Co. Inc.- Demar Leather Company: Their ad says they have russet South American Skirting in double butts, as well as bridle and harness. Email is sales@msokol.com. Number is 1-888-765-6526 (it says ask for Pete.) They're in Kew Gardens NY, so if they have something that will work for you, shipping might be less. American Leather Direct: http://aleatherd.com/ They're the importer for Chahin Leather, which I believe is what ZW carries. That's all for now, if I find more, I'll let you know. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoDill Report post Posted May 5, 2012 Looking through the suppliers in Shop Talk Magazine, this is what I've found. Double K Leather Sales: http://doublekleather.com/ They import Sadesa leather. It doesn't show it on their website, but they list double butts in their ad in Shop Talk. Sho Tan: I don't believe they have a website. Their number is (800) 251-7288. They have double bends listed in their ad. Milton Sokol & Co. Inc.- Demar Leather Company: Their ad says they have russet South American Skirting in double butts, as well as bridle and harness. Email is sales@msokol.com. Number is 1-888-765-6526 (it says ask for Pete.) They're in Kew Gardens NY, so if they have something that will work for you, shipping might be less. American Leather Direct: http://aleatherd.com/ They're the importer for Chahin Leather, which I believe is what ZW carries. That's all for now, if I find more, I'll let you know. Paul Thank you. I will check all this out, and because of the response to this request, I'll post my findings if successful. Bo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
