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Thanks for chiming in Ron! Let me just say that Importing from China never was an option... ever. I was involved in importing fabric from Italy for an employer a few times and I know the pitfalls and that it is a PITA regularly.

As for what I intend to sew. I'd like to sew a Studebaker fender to the wall of my house. LOL

Seriously, though I intend to sew 2-3 layers of 10-14oz leather but I also want something versatile enough to sew thin upholstery leather if needed. So I want at least one that can sew 1/2"... but would love one that sews 3/4"

The problem is that I have a kool-aid budget.

Steve has a Ferdco 440R that he's found for me... and an Artisan 3000 that was quite a bit more than I wanted to pay....but I want to make sure I'm choosing the right machine.

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Hi Syl,

For THAT you will need a Campbell.

Art

As for what I intend to sew. I'd like to sew a Studebaker fender to the wall of my house. LOL

For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!

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Hi Syl,

For THAT you will need a Campbell.

Art

LOL!! I'll keep that in mind. Those old Studebakers were tanks weren't they? I sure miss my Silver Hawk.

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Thanks for chiming in Ron! Let me just say that Importing from China never was an option... ever. I was involved in importing fabric from Italy for an employer a few times and I know the pitfalls and that it is a PITA regularly.

As for what I intend to sew. I'd like to sew a Studebaker fender to the wall of my house. LOL

Seriously, though I intend to sew 2-3 layers of 10-14oz leather but I also want something versatile enough to sew thin upholstery leather if needed. So I want at least one that can sew 1/2"... but would love one that sews 3/4"

The problem is that I have a kool-aid budget.

Steve has a Ferdco 440R that he's found for me... and an Artisan 3000 that was quite a bit more than I wanted to pay....but I want to make sure I'm choosing the right machine.

The 440R (Ferdo's version of our Techsew GA5-1R) will sew up to 1/2". If you want something more versatile then you need a 441 clone, these can sew from 6-7oz up to 7/8".

Ron

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The 440R (Ferdo's version of our Techsew GA5-1R) will sew up to 1/2". If you want something more versatile then you need a 441 clone, these can sew from 6-7oz up to 7/8".

Ron

Thanks again Ron:

I keep seeing "441 clone" but that is about as clear as mud to me. Who originally made the 441? and What companies make clones?

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Thanks again Ron:

I keep seeing "441 clone" but that is about as clear as mud to me. Who originally made the 441? and What companies make clones?

Juki makes the actual 441 machine. It is now model TSC-441, which sells for over $5,000 US. These machines are setup to sew thick cloth, webbing, parachutes, tents, tow ropes and other thick cloth and man-made materials. They require modifications for change them into dedicated leather sewing machines. The first mod is the presser feet and feed dog. Then the motor system, then the lift system. The rest is classified.

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My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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Juki makes the actual 441 machine. It is now model TSC-441, which sells for over $5,000 US. These machines are setup to sew thick cloth, webbing, parachutes, tents, tow ropes and other thick cloth and man-made materials. They require modifications for change them into dedicated leather sewing machines. The first mod is the presser feet and feed dog. Then the motor system, then the lift system. The rest is classified.

Ok that makes sense, Thank you. Wiz. All this sewing machine jargon is enough to make the most intelligent and pleasant person start to get confused and cranky. LOL

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It is a copy of the Singer 18-2 shoe vamping machine.

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