Members Dogface Posted October 27, 2012 Members Report Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) I have owned this machine for years and it usually works well. Mostly I use 346 on top and 277 in the bobbin. Needle size is 230. I just moved my shop from my barn up to a loft above our detached garage and had the machine serviced during the move. I'm now having real problems with it. It seems that on one later of leather...maybe 8-9oz...it sews OK but makes a scratching sound on the way out of the leather. On thicker leather or more than one layer it scratches louder and sometimes will just not come out of the leather at all without me using both hands on the wheel to force it out. Often the top thread gets frayed or breaks. Yes, the top thread is lubed. Even if I change needles to a new one it still does this and there are no barbs on the needle that I can feel. I really don't want to have to take it anywhere since its so darn heavy. Hopefully someone here will have an idea for me to try.... Mark Edited October 27, 2012 by Dogface Quote
Trox Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 Check if your handwheel is loose on the drive shaft. Trox Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
dirtclod Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) I have the same machine and sometimes it dose the same thing on some sides. I'm thinking it's rawhide in the leather where it didn't all the way. Mine makes a sound sorta like when ya pull a nail. The only thing that i found that helps is to take the tread out of the needle and the arm at the top and lay it in the tension disk at the top and sew the piece with no thread then thread it again and stitch and will still do the same thing sometimes. Edited October 28, 2012 by dirtclod Quote I'm old enough to know that i don't know everything.
Trox Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 I think you have to bring it back to service, frayed and broken threads means the timing is off. They may have forgotten to tighten down som screwes on the hook shaft after adjusting it. You have to complain about the service job. Since you had it serviced you are not your own mechanic. If you are, you should check all shafts and screws are tight, and then check the hook timing. Trox Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Dogface Posted October 28, 2012 Author Members Report Posted October 28, 2012 Trox I was afraid someone would say that Quote
Trox Posted October 28, 2012 Report Posted October 28, 2012 I am sorry to be the one with bad news, however you knew the answer yourself. Better safe than sorry. Have them to visit you, you should not pay for this. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Ken Nelson Posted October 28, 2012 Members Report Posted October 28, 2012 I am sorry to be the one with bad news, however you knew the answer yourself. Better safe than sorry. Have them to visit you, you should not pay for this. I would call Cobra Steve and see if he will sell you a manual for a Cobra Class 4. It has excellent instructions for timing the 441. Good resource to have. Ken Quote
Members Anne Bonnys Locker Posted October 30, 2012 Members Report Posted October 30, 2012 Rule No1. If a machine is working fine then it needs no servicing beyond cleaning, oiling and checking the screws are tight. I see too many problems caused by "mechanics" who have no idea. I cannot claim to be an expert as I am learning as I go but you will know when your machine is not right by the sounds it makes and how it behaves. Rule No2. refer rule No1 Quote Darren Brosowski
CowboyBob Posted October 30, 2012 Report Posted October 30, 2012 Mark, Sounds to me like your sewing on old or dried out leather,that's what the noise is,try putting some lube on the leather or at least between the 2- pieces & I'll bet the noise will go away. Bob Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members Dogface Posted October 30, 2012 Author Members Report Posted October 30, 2012 Bob..... I think you're on to something ! Thanks. Quote
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