Members Oak Grove Leather Works Posted February 14, 2013 Members Report Posted February 14, 2013 Good morning! I have been using my Cobra 4 to sew holsters and knife sheaths for a little while now, and I just got induced to start making horse tack. The Cobra 4 instructions say to remove the feed dog and install the narrow slot needle plate, along with the adjustable guide wheel. I have done all that and when I try to sew, the leather doesn't move. I'm sure the solution is something simple, since this is a popular machine, but I'm not sure what to do. The machine comes with a holster plate, which I tried some time ago with the same results and a stirrup plate that I haven't bothered to mess with. I am hoping somebody out there can give me some hints on how to make these accessories work. Thanks for any advice!! -Steve Quote
Members dbusarow Posted February 14, 2013 Members Report Posted February 14, 2013 Even without the feed dogs you still have the walking foot and the needle which are both moving the leather. The only thing I can think of is that you have the stitch length arm in the center position. Dan Quote Dan Busarow dan@fishcreekleatherworks.com http://www.fishcreekleatherworks.com/
Members Oak Grove Leather Works Posted February 14, 2013 Author Members Report Posted February 14, 2013 Thanks for the reply. I have the machine set for about 8 stitches per inch, so that's not it. I'm wondering if I just need to crank up the walking foot pressure. I didn't change that at all. Quote
Members jsmith Posted February 14, 2013 Members Report Posted February 14, 2013 Try going to 6 or even 5 spi until you get the stitch you want.The # wont match up with where you have been running it. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted February 14, 2013 Contributing Member Report Posted February 14, 2013 The 'cobra' foks can't tell you? I heard wonderful things about the 'customer service' there .. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Oak Grove Leather Works Posted February 14, 2013 Author Members Report Posted February 14, 2013 The 'cobra' foks can't tell you? I heard wonderful things about the 'customer service' there .. I haven't heard back from Steve, yet. I may have to call him. Try going to 6 or even 5 spi until you get the stitch you want.The # wont match up with where you have been running it. Well, the issue is that the leather doesn't move at all, not that it doesn't move the right amount. If I don't pull the leather along a bit, all the stiches go in one hole and jamb up the bobbin hook. I'm giong to try tightening up the foot pressure. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 15, 2013 Moderator Report Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Back off the pressure spring until the material moves with the needle. Make sure you have just enough pressure to keep the leather from lifting with the needle. Also, use one size smaller thread in the bobbin. If you have 277 on top use 207 in the bobbin. Examine the slot in the throat plate for burrs or sharp edges and Emory them smooth. Edited February 15, 2013 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Oak Grove Leather Works Posted February 15, 2013 Author Members Report Posted February 15, 2013 So... Hours later... It was indeed the stitch size. It is now cranking out 8 per inch nice and smoothly. A little tension adjustment and it will be fine. Thanks for the suggestion. Quote
Members JJs Leatherworks Posted February 15, 2013 Members Report Posted February 15, 2013 I am still learning all about my Cobra 4 and this was an issue for me as well. You definitely have to play with the tension when switching the plates and removing the feed dog and the SPI you get with the feed dog will not be the same as when it is removed without playing with the stitch length adjustment. I have started keeping track of settings used for each plate to make it easier when switching back and forth for different projects and then doing a quick sample in appropriate thickness of leather before putting the 'good leather' under the needle. It's a big learning curve, but as you learn the tricks, it is a great machine to sew with. JJ Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 15, 2013 Moderator Report Posted February 15, 2013 As JJ mentioned, the stitch length changes when you sew without the feed dog. What many don't expect is that the reverse stitches no longer match the forward stitches, at the old settings of the feet. I find that it is possible to dink with the point in rotation where the needle and inside foot makes contact with the leather, to almost balance out the differences. This is iffy at best, so I usually just watch where the needle is about to hit in reverse and pull down a little on the stitch lever to compensate if too long (reverse is usually longer w/o feeders). Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
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