Members Cascabel Posted May 3, 2013 Members Report Posted May 3, 2013 Are there any SIGNIFICANT differences between the Cobra Class 4, Cowboy 4500, and Techsew 5100 machines ? They appear very similar with similar specifications, and similar prices. Are there any differences, other than name, or are they identical machines with different labels ? Opinions, rants, or useful info. anybody ?? Quote
raysouth Posted May 3, 2013 Report Posted May 3, 2013 Hello Cascabel, I am probably not the best person to answer this question but can relate what I have learned along the way. I had purchased one of thos you listed and it is a great machine, even though I was never able to use it. All of them seem to be made in China and have different brand names but appear to be, basically identical machines. The various agents have some different attachments and hardware that seems to be unique to their brand of the machine, which may be good marketing tool. I have spoken with most of the companies while I was in search mode and all were extremely able and willing to assist. Sure you would find the same results today. If thinking of making a machine purchase, I would suggest calling them and discussing your needs and obtain all of the information available from them. They are very eager to assist new machine users. Hope this gives you some idea of what I have learned and perhaps other may have different suggestions or opinions. God Bless. Ray Quote
Members Rayban Posted May 3, 2013 Members Report Posted May 3, 2013 Don't know about the Techsew, but the difference tween the Cobra and Cowboy is that one is brown, and the other is grey. Quote Raybanwww.rgleather.net
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted May 4, 2013 Moderator Report Posted May 4, 2013 My Cowboy CB 4500 has stainless steel feet and throat plates, including the optional accessory plates I got. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Cascabel Posted May 8, 2013 Author Members Report Posted May 8, 2013 What would be the advantage to stainless steel for these parts ? Quote
Moderator Art Posted May 8, 2013 Moderator Report Posted May 8, 2013 Maybe if you sew a lot of wet leather, but I just don't. Makers like Juki, Adler, Pfaff, and many others do not provide stainless steel feet, they would if they thought it necessary. Chroming steel feet is good maybe, but all the old machines used steel, just mild steel. With today's modern materials, some form of plastic may be better, but making it sturdy enough for high pressure applications might be a consideration. Stainless is prone to stress risers where sharp angles are employed which is another reason not to use it in repetitive high speed motion applications. But if you sew a lot of wet leather, then maybe it should be a consideration. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Contributing Member Samalan Posted May 10, 2013 Contributing Member Report Posted May 10, 2013 Yes for me it was the five stolhman award winners John Bianchi & the{ EPS very important for me } but i am sure all the machines like the Cowboy and others are great machines also. Hope this helps best of luck. Quote
Trox Posted May 10, 2013 Report Posted May 10, 2013 Maybe if you sew a lot of wet leather, but I just don't. Makers like Juki, Adler, Pfaff, and many others do not provide stainless steel feet, they would if they thought it necessary. Chroming steel feet is good maybe, but all the old machines used steel, just mild steel. With today's modern materials, some form of plastic may be better, but making it sturdy enough for high pressure applications might be a consideration. Stainless is prone to stress risers where sharp angles are employed which is another reason not to use it in repetitive high speed motion applications. But if you sew a lot of wet leather, then maybe it should be a consideration. Art The only thing that is important to me is that the material is workable. I seldom find a foot that does not need to be modified Tor Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Cascabel Posted May 10, 2013 Author Members Report Posted May 10, 2013 So apparently there are no important differences in these machines, other than the stainless steel feet on Cowboy machines ? Perhaps I should mostly consider what is offered for accessory packages and shipping cost as the deciding factors. Any thoughts.... ? Quote
Members Rayban Posted May 10, 2013 Members Report Posted May 10, 2013 So apparently there are no important differences in these machines, other than the stainless steel feet on Cowboy machines ? Perhaps I should mostly consider what is offered for accessory packages and shipping cost as the deciding factors. Any thoughts.... ? Yep...find the dealer closest to you. Quote Raybanwww.rgleather.net
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