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Thanks everybody... Im still waiting to hear back from the person that was selling the Singer, but I have just come across a silver Adler patcher, not sure what model or price etc, but does anybody know if the Adler patchers have any advantages to the Singer's?? Besides cost LOL.

Im gonna look more into the dremel thing. I still need to get some pricking irons, havent gotten that far yet. Im not gonna sew with stingray though until i get really comfortable with my machine... Seems like finding the darn machine is the hardest part!

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That's exactly the same machine, uses the same shuttle. Both Singer and Adler makes a small and a large hook machine and different arm length. And of course there are several other brands that also makes this machine: the Singer . 29K (and U)and Adler class 30. It's not a Duerkopp Adler it's was made before 94 and now made on licence from DA by SL Special machines, Germany.http://www.sl-spezial.de/sl/index.php/shoe-repair.html

These are repair machines, with a top feeding foot that will make ugly markings on leather. It has a very thin arm to fit inside shoes and therfore a very small bobbin too. That means very little and thin threads. As long as you understand what this machine will and will not do. It's a tool that can sew every seam that other cannot, but will not do any pretty job. Small stitch length and ugly markings, but we cannot do with out it.

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Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100

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