Singer 269W Bar Tacker

[Constabulary]

I need some help with a Singer 269W bar tacker.

I´m able to get one for a good price but it does not sew the pattern I need. Is there a way to convert it to a different tack patterns? I assume they work with some kind of replaceable pattern plates (or how are they called), right?

[Constabulary]

Also, would be nice to know if it is possible to change the patterns at a Juki LK-980 :-)

[gottaknow]

It's possible to change the cams on both machines. Depending on what you want to do, you may need to change the clamp and plate as well. The cam on the Singer is on the bottom and is on a verticle shaft. The cam on the Juki is on the right side of the machine head and is on a horizontal shaft. Changing the cam on either of these machines is not for a beginer or even someone who's accomplished with more mainstream industrials. They are in a class by themselves as far as adjusting and maintaining. There is a company called Camtron that makes replacement cams for both machines. Not to be confused with Camatron which is a company that makes bartack clones. I haven't ordered any cams for several years, but last I did Camtron was in the Dallas, TX area. Keep in mind the cam on the machine not only controls the pattern, but also all the other parts of the bartack cycle, include clamp behavior and the knife system. It's possible to do permanant damage if you attempt to change the cam on either machine unless you know exactly what you're doing. I earn my keep so to speak keeping all of our bartacks running.

Depending on what it is you're trying to do, you may want to check out a programmable bartack. I love the Brother unit I have. I'm currently using it to attach elastic to suede on the welding jackets we're making using a box-x pattern.. Juki also makes a bartack, the LK1900 which is older than the brother but has a nice variety of patterns. I would contact a dealer for either the Brother or Juki. I have both machines and prefer the Brother. I also have Juki 980's, 982's, 1852's as well as the 1900. I have probably 12 Singer 269's that we still use to do various things. What pattern or type of tack do you need to have?

Regards, Eric

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

I certainly don't speak for Robert at Camatron, but I know he would tell you the same thing (because Robert and I have had discussions about these machines, the Singer 269W specifically); LK-980 and certainly Singer 269W machines are dead as a door nail as far as new conversions go.

Nobody USA is going to convert a 269W or Juki LK-980 from one cam to another; if you have for example a bar tacker or converted machine to do the specific application, or one that you can at least use, your in the clear, and even with that, I would not spend more than a few hundred bucks. Parts and service could be a tall order as well.

Hope this helps.

[gottaknow]

Parts are readily available for the 269's and the older Juki's. I still change cams when I have to. The Juki's don't take that long.

Regards, Eric

[Constabulary]

either machine would cots me about 200€ but not set up for what I`m thinking of. I would like to sew 16mm wide tacks with 2.5mm hight with about 52-56 stitches. I don´t want to spend toooo much money as It more a hobby that a job.

How much would it be to put a new cam into the Juki?

[gottaknow]

A Juki 980 or a 984 with a common 42 stitch cam should work fine if you're talking about a 16mm long tack by 2-3mm wide. The clamp for that is pretty standard as well. That's the standard tack size for back pockets on jeans.

Regards, Eric

[Constabulary]

I need some quite dense stitched tacks so that why I ask.

It´s a certain tack I need not just a technical tack. I will post pictures soon.

[Constabulary]

I´m not sure but I think this tack has more than 42 stitches. So this is what i "wish" to produce with a bat bar tacker...

[TXAG]

Ewww...fiberglass / steel pot USGI chin straps...Can't say I miss wearing those!

Good luck...

Edited October 14, 2013 by TXAG