rktaylor Posted January 28, 2014 Report Posted January 28, 2014 RDL, Goldshot Ron said to buy theJeremiah Watt DVD and get e new perspective on saddle making. I watched the first 4 hours last night. The wife has plans tonight so I'll watch the second DVD. While it will take some time to absorb it all, it is very impressive. It's based on a Wade saddle, which I doubt I would build. However, the way he goes through the process, I think I could build anything. He really helps you understand how a saddle goes together. After I watch all of it, I will likely post a review on the DVD thread. Once I get my new drawdown stand and shop area done, I am starting on #2. Jeremiah says you should be working on at least two at the same time, but I am not sure I could cash flow that so I will stick with one at a time for now. Randy Quote
Members AdamTill Posted January 28, 2014 Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 You timed your order well. Just went in to Caledon yesterday and he said he's closing up shop. VERY sad day...not to mention I needed an extra side of leather. May end up having to order out of the states until another Cdn supplier comes up (Ken said they were talking to another company in Calgary). Nice build BTW, good job. Quote
Members rdl123 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 Adam: Thanks for the heads up - I called Ken and it looks like they won't be bringing in anymore of the 13-15oz HO - Guess I'll call up Sheridan leather and try and get a side from them. Too bad about them closing - Ken is a great guy to deal with... R Quote
Members AdamTill Posted January 28, 2014 Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Adam: Thanks for the heads up - I called Ken and it looks like they won't be bringing in anymore of the 13-15oz HO - Guess I'll call up Sheridan leather and try and get a side from them. Too bad about them closing - Ken is a great guy to deal with... R Agreed! He had a few Horseshoe Brand tools on sale if you need anything. I was thinking of trying Hide House since they ship Fedex (UPS is a no-no for duties and us Canuks) and are cheaper than Sheridan I think. I need at least one side - apparently my layout skills need work, since I won't be able to get my seat where I want it. Have another tree coming in a few months from the Nikkels, so I might just go ahead and get three to avoid doubling up on shipping. Edited January 28, 2014 by AdamTill Quote
Members rdl123 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 Adam: Yep, discovered that my layout skills really need work...by the time I am done this saddle Ill have gone through 4 hides which I know is way over what should be doable. However, as I am making my own patterns, when I rough cut I am oversizing fairly heavy - That won't be necessary the next time around as I will have hardboard patterns that will be very close to what I want... Also, next time I won't have to make two set's of skirts! The other thing is, I cut my rigging liner leathers out of fairly good hide instead of running them into the flankier parts of the hide. Figured it was worth it as this saddle will be with me for a while. I just bought a piece of 13-15oz HO from http://www.montanaleather.com Talked to Jamie. They are out of Billings MT. I would be interested to know how many professional saddle makers can get a complete saddle out of two hides...And would that include stirrup leathers too? R Quote
Members AdamTill Posted January 28, 2014 Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) I just bought a piece of 13-15oz HO from http://www.montanale...her.com Talked to Jamie. They are out of Billings MT. Mind my asking what shipping method they use and what the cost would be? I would be interested to know how many professional saddle makers can get a complete saddle out of two hides...And would that include stirrup leathers too? No professional here, but I would have come close aligning things a little differently. I needed an extra seat liner to account for a very flat bar profile, and I miscut my cantle filler once. I probably would have come close to getting a seat without those mistakes, and I cut my parts as Jeremiah Watt outlines on his video. Edited January 28, 2014 by AdamTill Quote
Members rdl123 Posted January 28, 2014 Author Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 Adam: I live real close to the border and have a buddy just south of the line that let's me ship stuff to his place. Basically it'll ship there and the cost is minimal because it stays in the states. Coming up though the border, sometimes they make you pay GST & duty, other times the guy'll just wave you through - It's real random.. I am starting to think that investing in the Jeremiah Watt DVD's would be worth my while. That's one thing Dale Harwood doesn't go into a lot of detail on - Hide layout... Sure be interested to see some pictures of you rig Adam... R Quote
Members BondoBobCustomSaddles Posted January 28, 2014 Members Report Posted January 28, 2014 R, here are a couple of pages out of the Stohlman books that show layout of parts on hides. Sorry about the blurry pics, but; it's too damn cold to hold the camera perfectly still! At any rate you can get some idea of how to lay out, certain pieces on a hide and where not to lay them out to get the best durability for stirrup leathers, fenders, seat leather and so on. While this is not the only way you can get it done, it will help you get to that 2 hide goal. Personally, I usually get a little pickey on what I use and so it get's me a little past 2 hides to get one done, but; then I usually have several projects going on at the same time and so I just use what I need from a 3rd since I have it here anyways. If I were not so pickey, I probably could get 2 saddles without rear cinches, out of 3 hides, but; my customers expect the best from me, an that's what I give them. Hope that helps you some. Bob Quote
Members AdamTill Posted January 29, 2014 Members Report Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Sorry, good point, since I'm doing a single rig I don't have flank cinches to cut out. Will update my other thread with photos in a little bit. Edited January 29, 2014 by AdamTill Quote
Members rdl123 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Members Report Posted January 29, 2014 Bob: Thanks for that! Much appreciated, Ron Quote
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