Using Up The Pieces

[TXAG]

I've completed the 9L x 8B w/pineapple interweave, so it looks the same as the knot, but without the extra passes to double everything. Not sure how to continue...

[TXAG]

Ok, from this post in another thread...

http://leatherworker...75

"Bud Brewer gave us these Os & Us:

I don?t know anything about types, an I definitely don?t know anything about the math of these things. Long ago I sat down an figured out the way the passes go under an wrote it down. Lost it an so, redid it again. I think it is correct. Maybe this will help with the knots

PINEAPPLES

2 pass ? first pass under 2 at the top, under 2 at the bottom. There after, under 3 both top and bottom. (basic pineapple)

3 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 4 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 5 at bottom

4 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 6 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 7 at bottom

5 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 8 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 9 at bottom

6 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 10 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 11 at bottom"

Can someone please explain this info from the late Bud Brewer? Was he referring to Type 3 pineapple knots?

[TXAG]

And...I am pretty sure it is a 9L x 8B base, but hell if I can get the third and fourth passes correct.

[Tracym]

I believe that is the right knot, I'm glad you got that. I think you would just add a 3rd (and then 4th) pass the same as you would the 2nd pass, following the 2nd pass around, going over and under more strings as necessary. The problem is - using black and tan to make the pattern that he did - you would have to do 2 passes of black, then 2 passes of tan. Which for me anyway, makes it harder to follow what I'm doing doing 2 passes of the same color. So main knot black, pineapple interweave pass black, 3rd pass tan, 4th pass tan. Perhaps practice using 4 different colors so you can see what you're doing, make notes, and then do it with the colors as he did.

[TXAG]

Yeah...problem is, I don't know how to start the third and fourth passes...that's what I've been trying to figure out. First two, no problem. Don't know how to begin the third pass (where and how many U/O to begin...)

[Tracym]

OK, someone help out here if possible Now I'm thinking the base knot is black, 2nd pass is tan. Maybe working down then inside the knot - 3rd pass tan and 4th pass black? Here's a youtube of doing a 3rd pass

[TXAG]

Thanks...got that jotted down in my notebook...

Still need to try to figure out that fourth pass...I'm going to try to extrapolate it from the other ones, but it would be helpful if someone else could confirm where/how to start out on the fourth pass...

[Tracym]

You still have me guessing, but probably underneath the 3rd pass, along the standing end from the original knot. Doing the same as the 3rd pass, just going over/under 1 more each time.

[TXAG]

That's sort of what I'm thinking too...going to try the fourth pass in a little while.

[Tracym]

Good luck