Members ToddB 68 Posted January 20, 2014 Members Report Posted January 20, 2014 Back on this subject again I had the following thoughts. Remember I'm just a beginner and don't know all the angles ! After musing over the title of this thread and back-reading the entire thread again, I have to wonder why anyone would want to use a temporary glue in the first place ? If you are going to sew the pieces of leather together, why would you want/need a temporary glue ? Instead........... ........Why not use a white glue like electrothon spoke of, that offers some working time to realign edges if needed and a permanent bond after some drying time, plus the added benefit of not leaving an ugly residue at the edges ! ? Seems like that would be the ideal glue for all leather gluing applications. ToddB68 Quote
Members SethJ Posted January 20, 2014 Members Report Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) I've tried the wledwood and other contact cements,...the only one I've found that I like on saddles and holsters and such is the Leathercrafters Contact Cement,.....that or barge. The other stuff can be pulled apart fairly easily,..this stuff,...it will tear the fibers of the leather if you let it cure and try to rip it apart. Back on this subject again I had the following thoughts. Remember I'm just a beginner and don't know all the angles ! After musing over the title of this thread and back-reading the entire thread again, I have to wonder why anyone would want to use a temporary glue in the first place ? If you are going to sew the pieces of leather together, why would you want/need a temporary glue ? Instead........... ........Why not use a white glue like electrothon spoke of, that offers some working time to realign edges if needed and a permanent bond after some drying time, plus the added benefit of not leaving an ugly residue at the edges ! ? Seems like that would be the ideal glue for all leather gluing applications. ToddB68 Yea I didnt really get that either,..I want it STUCK! I figured he meant he wanted it held until he could sew it. I cement almost everything I sew. Edited January 20, 2014 by SethJ Quote
Members needles Posted January 20, 2014 Members Report Posted January 20, 2014 on the basting tape, or double sided, used also by some to hold zips in place prior to sewing, does it gum up the needles, i tried one once and the needle was next to useless once gummed....... Quote
electrathon Posted January 20, 2014 Report Posted January 20, 2014 I've tried the wledwood and other contact cements,...the only one I've found that I like on saddles and holsters and such is the Leathercrafters Contact Cement,.....that or barge. The other stuff can be pulled apart fairly easily,..this stuff,...it will tear the fibers of the leather if you let it cure and try to rip it apart. Yea I didnt really get that either,..I want it STUCK! I figured he meant he wanted it held until he could sew it. I cement almost everything I sew. If you want your stuff to stick forever get some Renia. It is what the cobblers use to glue the soles on shoes. Amazinly strong, easier to use than Barge and has the harshest smell of any glue I have used. on the basting tape, or double sided, used also by some to hold zips in place prior to sewing, does it gum up the needles, i tried one once and the needle was next to useless once gummed....... That is one of the advantages of the white glue. It does not have a rubbery layer to get on your needles, just sort of disapears. Quote
Members ToddB 68 Posted January 20, 2014 Members Report Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Hey Guys & Gals, I know everyone likes to give opinions and share experiences with glues, but electrothon's white glue suggestion seems to have all the properties we need for leatherwork...#1 Not an "instant" bonding glue, so allows realignment of parts if needed, #2 Permanent bond after some drying time, #3 Dries clear, leaving no ugly residue at edges, #4 No rubbery layer to get on needles. So what else do we need in a glue ? As for the "permanent" aspect, I can see where that is necessary if you are a shoe cobbler affixing a thick heel onto a shoe sole, but with relatively light weight leather projects that get sewn together, wouldn't the white glue be permanent enough ? ToddB68 Edited January 20, 2014 by ToddB68 Quote
Members Sjohnsone Posted January 21, 2014 Members Report Posted January 21, 2014 Just to throw my two cents into the penny jar - Skip the glues and cements. Get some of those black triangular paper clip things from staples..the ones with the silver tabs that you can flip forward and back. Put them along the seam of whatever you're working on and take them off as you progress around. I messed around with glues and everything else and to be perfectly honest it just takes up too much time and you risk getting it all over the place or gluing your piece together weird. Good luck. Quote
Members Red Cent Posted January 21, 2014 Members Report Posted January 21, 2014 Electrothon, are we talking about Elmer's Glue? Quote https://www.facebook.com/redcentcustomleather?ref=bookmarks http://www.redcentcustomleather.com/
Members Red Cent Posted January 21, 2014 Members Report Posted January 21, 2014 "You can use Tandy's Leatherweld or Elmers white wood glue which is about the same thing. It works OK but not the same grab that Barge's or Master's contact cements have. It does take longer to dry. Or you can just put a fan behind you while you are glueing." http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=35851 Quote https://www.facebook.com/redcentcustomleather?ref=bookmarks http://www.redcentcustomleather.com/
electrathon Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Electrothon, are we talking about Elmer's Glue? No, Leatherweld looks like Elmer's, but is a little thicker and holds better ( I tried Elmer's did not like it). Quote
Contributing Member UKRay Posted January 25, 2014 Contributing Member Report Posted January 25, 2014 Good tip, Aaron. Glue on edges is a real pain. I use a German glue (made by Renia) called Klebfest. It is almost impossible to 'unstick'! If anyone in the UK is looking I sell it on my website. Quote "Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps" Ray Hatley www.barefootleather.co.uk
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