Cobra 4 Accesories ** Help **

[Santo]

The following link is normally used to open a pop-up information window, from the pages of the Cowboy 441 clones. But, here it is on its own, just because you asked! It details the various feet and cover plates and edge guides for the 441 clones, including Cobra, Cowboy and Techsew

Hate to barge in, but quick question for Wiz. Are the accessories interchangeable between all the clones? I really like the paddle feet, thread lube box, and swing away roller arm Cowboy offers.

[Andrew Chee]

Just a clarification on the stirrup plate. I have used mine on an Artisan Toro 3000 and I have found that the plate needs to be used with a right toe foot instead of a left because there is not enough material on the left of the plate for the foot to press down on. Also, I found that with the stirrup plate on, my sewing thickness goes down to about 1/4". At least that's what I've observed on my machine.

Andrew

[Wizcrafts]

Hate to barge in, but quick question for Wiz. Are the accessories interchangeable between all the clones? I really like the paddle feet, thread lube box, and swing away roller arm Cowboy offers.

As far as I have seen, yes. I sometimes us a Cobra standard plate on my Cowboy, because it is totally smooth on top. The stirrup, holster and flat slotted plates also interchange. The swing-away edge guide requires a special adapter that has a long slot cut out from the right end. It is T shaped. If you don't have one, order it from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines (Cowboy) or Leather Machinery Company (Cobra). I suppose Techsew also sells this combination.

Anybody using raised throat plates should bear in mind that you will lose the height of the plate above4 the base level in sewing capacity. So, if your machine allowed you to sew 3/4 inch with the standard plate, you might end up with just 7/16 inch with the stirrup plate and 1/2 inch with the holster plate. For machines able to sew 7/8 inch, the numbers are 1/8" taller.

I actually ground down my holster plate a little, then buffed it to a polish.

[Wizcrafts]

The lube pot may or may not require a new or larger diameter hole to be bored in the head.

The Cowboy paddle feet are a special set of three pieces. Due to a difference in height, after installing the inside foot and one outside paddle foot, you may have to reposition the big crank arm protruding out the rear of the faceplate, with the large hex-head screw, to take up any difference in height between these parts and the originals.

[oclack]

If the teeth on the standard throat plat are marking my leather, is this a top pressure issue, or should I be looking for a smooth through plate?

[Wizcrafts]

If the teeth on the standard throat plat are marking my leather, is this a top pressure issue, or should I be looking for a smooth through plate?

I used Emory cloth on my throat plates that had grooves on top and then buffed them to a high polish. I can't imagine why those grooves are there, other than the Chinese copied a standard Juki TSC 441 and simply know nothing about sewing veg-tan leather. Someone needs to tell them to produce smooth throat plates for leather sewing machines.

[Cobra Steve]

Hello. Regarding the stitch length, when you remove the feed dog, you are essentially taking half of the feeding away, so, you must increase your stitch length by at least 1 or 2 numbers. In the instruction book, it goes over all of the accessories that come with the COBRA Class 4. If you need more info, you can call me and I will go over them all with you. Thanks, Steve

[tomt]

it would be nice if the people that sell these machine would make a video that would show how to use these the different plates would take a lot of question from these proablem

[Chef niloc]

I would love it if cobra would do a video on changing out and using these plates and accessories. I got mine about a year and a half ago and have never used any of the plate attachments mainly because I couldn't figure out how they fit or work. Example I didn't know that the fee dog needed to be removed in order to use the holster plate.

[Chef niloc]

Hello. Regarding the stitch length, when you remove the feed dog, you are essentially taking half of the feeding away, so, you must increase your stitch length by at least 1 or 2 numbers. In the instruction book, it goes over all of the accessories that come with the COBRA Class 4. If you need more info, you can call me and I will go over them all with you. Thanks, Steve

Mine didn't, come with a instruction book, at least I don't think so? all I got was a quick setup sheet of paper and a part list with part numbers on it, no instructions? I ordered and bought the instruction manual for the Juki TSN- 421 / TSC-441 ( one book) directly from Juki (not as easy to do {order, get your hands on} as one might think ). It has been very helpful and insightful on how to operate and set up the machine but it of course doesn't offer any information on the custom parts you guys make for your machines. After reading this post I don't believe I got the fabric for with my machine either, don't know if it was supposed to come with it, but I think it was?

There's a YouTube video out there somewhere I'll look for the link that some guy made that's pretty good as well on how to set up and troubleshoot some possible issues