Cb 3200

[Ferg]

I am curious to know some critical information about the new CB3200 Sewing Machine.

Anyone who has bought one and using it, not setting idle.

How much "fiddling" do you need do when changing thread and/or thickness of leather?

This pertains to tension adjustments more than anything. I frequently need to change from 6oz. to maybe 1oz. or 2oz. leather. Also may be using 10 oz. and need to change to thinner material.

I have a short arm Seiko that is most comfortable sewing no more than 3/8" with 138 thread. Would be nice to have the ability to sew with larger thread in thicker material. I don't want to spend more time adjusting the machine than it takes to sew an item.

I know, buy another machine to augment the three I already have. That is not an option open to me.

Any thoughts positive or negative, I would like to hear them.

Thanks to any responders in advance.

ferg

[Wizcrafts]

Ferg;

The 3200 is a 441 type machine. It does not sew under about 6 ounces and is best used with #138 and larger thread.

[neelsaddlery]

Ferg:

The CB-3200 series machine is very similar to the CB-4500 series machine which we sell. The CB-4500 machine is a 441 clone. The similarities are as follows:

1. The CB-3200 machine is a compound feed machine (walking foot, needle feed, and feed dog).

2. The CB-3200 machine uses the same presser feet as the 441 machine

3. The CB-3200 uses the same hook, bobbin, bobbin case, and needle as the 441 machines

4. Many of the same parts used in the CB-3200 machine are the same with the 441 machine. This would be things like the front cover, the parts for the needle feed, many of the parts for the walking foot, as well some internal parts. About 50 percent of the parts used in the CB-3200 are the same with the 441 series machines.

The CB-3200 machine is sort of a "reduced" version of the 441. Many of the parts are the same, the machine works the same way, but it will not sew quite as heavy as the 441 and does not have as long of an arm length. The CB-3200 series will sew just about what you can fit under the presser foot, which is around 5/8 inch. It has about an 11 inch arm. The CB-4500 series machine will sew to 3/4 inch, and also has a 16.5 inch arm.

I can tell you that the performance of the CB-3200 machine has been exemplary thus far. We have sold many of these machines and they have held up very well. The users of the machine are very satisfied with its performance and it is holding up well for its intended function, which is sewing medium weight and heavy weight leathers. That I am aware, between our dealers and us, we have received no warranty claims for this machine thus far, and we have sold many of them.

One of the nicest features of the machine is that it uses the same hook as the 441 series machines. The hook insures that the machine will not skip stitches. The reverse mechanism on the machine is also very good. It matches the holes perfectly in forward and reverse. This is something that most machines in this price range are incapable of doing.

The CB-3200 machines resemble the Ferdco Pro 440 Baby Bull as far as outward appearance. However they work completely different in that they have a compound feed mechanism on them.

Another nice thing about the machines are the stand and motor Of course we use a variable speed servo motor on all machines we sell, and the stand features a high quality plywood top with rubber bumpers and also has caster wheels on it. This is a real help if you need to move the machine from one side of the room to the next. The machine weighs over 200 pounds!!!!

The CB-3200 machine would not be an ideal machine for sewing garment weight leather. You can sew two layers of 2-3 ounce leathers together with it. Some users have reported great success with a size 92 thread, however we recommend that a size 138 thread or larger be used. The machine can handle up to a size 346 thread with ease. No heavy duty stitcher would work well on leathers that are considered to be extremely light.

You had mentioned that you use a Seiko for your lighter weight leathers. You can keep the Seiko for the lighter weight items and then use the CB-3200 for your heavier items.

The main reason why we designed the CB-3200 machine is because many people were calling us wanting a heavy duty machine but they did not have the funds for a CB-4500 machine. The CB-3200 series machines fills that market niche nicely. It is nearly $800.00 less than the next closest CB-4500 package that we offer. It is the lowest priced compound feed stitcher on the market today.

Hope this information is of some help to you, and if you have any additional questions, please feel free to call or e-mail.

[Ferg]

Thanks Ryan,

For the detailed explanation, exactly what I was looking for.

I will stick with my present three machines for now anyway.

ferg

[JOAT]

I have a question.. Will this unit leave the marks on the leather underneath?

[CowboyBob]

It has smooth feed dogs & feet so there's no marking.

[BDAZ]

I received mine a few weeks ago and I ordered mine with the same stand as the 4500, It cost a bit more but has a smaller foot print and easier to move around. It does a great job.

Cya!

Bob

[GuardianConcealment]

I received my 3200 the first week of December and I could not be happier with it. I sew holster backs with 277 top and 207 bottom and it works great. It took me some time to learn and have it fully adjusted but that is just because it was my first machine. Bob is great to work with and answered all my questions. It was well packaged and very easy to put together. I love the new stand and the motor is different form the older 3500 (very smooth start and speed control) For the price it fit the bill 100%.