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Hi i have had a look on your instagram and your stitching is very neat , i noticed the name C.mason on one of the Pricking Irons but i can't find anything about that company on the net , could you post a link to there web site please ?

the tool maker has instgram. His id is cmdachong. He doesn't speak very good English though. I intended to be his reseller here. He sell a set of pricking iron that has 2 5 and 10 teeth for $100, do you think that's okay? He hand polished every teeth.
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I am also interested.

taobao.com is almost entirely Chinese so searching it is a problem (for me). Have you got a contact for the seller? perhaps they also have an Alibaba store?

Just fyi, Alibaba is usually for wholesale. I know one worker has Instagram , his id is cmdachong, others only have taobao, but you can go to my Instagram and have a look at the teeth and performance, if you are interested I can help get you one. They are are all hand polished so still cost around $100. My Instagram id is RenLeather.

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Chinese iron and vergez are very different tools.

Vergez are forged (tool steel), hand hammered to shape, case hardened and filed by hand by a craftsman. The cost is in the skill and quality of the tool. Apparently it takes 3 people and a few hours to make..

Chinese iron is made by machine most likely with stainless, maybe case hardened. The vergez are for professional use, just like how japanese hand planes need to be tweaked for use the vergez teeth are left for the customer to polish and tweak.

Both are reasonable in price looking at what goes into the irons.

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Chinese iron and vergez are very different tools.

Vergez are forged (tool steel), hand hammered to shape, case hardened and filed by hand by a craftsman. The cost is in the skill and quality of the tool. Apparently it takes 3 people and a few hours to make..

Chinese iron is made by machine most likely with stainless, maybe case hardened. The vergez are for professional use, just like how japanese hand planes need to be tweaked for use the vergez teeth are left for the customer to polish and tweak.

Both are reasonable in price looking at what goes into the irons.

With a Chinese worker, you can discuss the steel they use. You can use any kind of steel as you want as long as they can get it. For professional iron, they machine shape first to be very precise and then hand polished or what you called tweak. I tried to polish my formal iron but it took so so so much effort and I can't do it very good. Chinese now make low end and high end pricking iron from different workers and the quality and price are very different. You can get a pair of $10 or $100 or $300. At least ten Chinese workers are making very good irons and they are very well known among Chinese leather workers. I know there are also very good Japanese and Korean workers out there. I didn't see anyone in USA make these tools and I just want to share this info to more people to let them know there are choice other than Blanchard.

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The teeth from Blanchard and Chinese one. One is $230, other is $100. This is why I did not like my Blanchard, I was disappointed when I got it. But I understand Blanchard has to pay more to worker. And they have a big brand. But if I knew this, I would not buy. I want a good tool, not a branded tool that does okay.

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With a Chinese worker, you can discuss the steel they use. You can use any kind of steel as you want as long as they can get it. For professional iron, they machine shape first to be very precise and then hand polished or what you called tweak. I tried to polish my formal iron but it took so so so much effort and I can't do it very good. Chinese now make low end and high end pricking iron from different workers and the quality and price are very different. You can get a pair of $10 or $100 or $300. At least ten Chinese workers are making very good irons and they are very well known among Chinese leather workers. I know there are also very good Japanese and Korean workers out there. I didn't see anyone in USA make these tools and I just want to share this info to more people to let them know there are choice other than Blanchard.

Thanks for sharing the info.

Do you have any links to the irons you posted in the picture & the other higher quality Chinese makers ? Very interested in these ones, not so much the shiny, polished one (that looks like it needs sharpened)

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Thank you Ren for your help , i found his instagram site , does he hand make all the tools on his site ? if so they look very well made , i would be interested in 2 pricking irons to produce 9 stitch per inch or the equivalent if you could get a price please .

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Thanks for sharing the info.

Do you have any links to the irons you posted in the picture & the other higher quality Chinese makers ? Very interested in these ones, not so much the shiny, polished one (that looks like it needs sharpened)

I'm Sorry I'm a bit confused. Almost all of them are polished.

10# 3.00mm http://tb.cn/OrqAIEy this is made by cmdachong on Instagram. The price is not correct.

中正线切割,法斩、欧斩、法式斩,订做各种间隔,超越岩田屋 http://tb.cn/mGTAIEy

正雄3.85mm欧式斜平六棱法斩内齿镜面抛光完胜岩田屋超越布兰查德 http://tb.cn/O8GAIEy

Above is some french pricking irons that has good price. If you want to see more expensive ones or diamond shaped ones, let me know.

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Thank you Ren for your help , i found his instagram site , does he hand make all the tools on his site ? if so they look very well made , i would be interested in 2 pricking irons to produce 9 stitch per inch or the equivalent if you could get a price please .

Because he is trying to make the pricking iron more precise and reducing the cost now he is using machine to shape the pricking iron out, but he hand polishes them by himself. He used to shape the pricking iron by hand but it took too much time and it could be not so precise between each teeth. The price would be around $100, but if you said 9 stitches per inch it would be 3mm between teeth (like a Blanchard 9tpi) and it took longer for him to finish and the price might be a bit higher.

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