Members Red Cent Posted April 20, 2014 Members Report Posted April 20, 2014 I have done a search or two and discovered a number of posts. However, they only refer to bands and thumb break strips. The posts referred to a few gauges and types of metals. I want to get some metal to cut into pieces that will reinforce most of the body of a holster. It seems from my research, most settle on 20 gauge SS. I have used the internet and looked at Lowes, Home Depot, and other places. Where do you folks get your metal besides the pallet banding or strips for thumb breaks? Quote https://www.facebook.com/redcentcustomleather?ref=bookmarks http://www.redcentcustomleather.com/
Members supercub Posted April 20, 2014 Members Report Posted April 20, 2014 Why not use galvanized steel? It is usually available in small sheets as roof and gutter flashing. Ace hardware and others carry it. Stainless will certainly work, but it is more difficult to cut and drill and the galvanized will likely last longer than the leather that covers it. It is also quite a bit cheaper than stainless. I have a very old Milt Sparks holster where the leather wore out from lots of hard use. The reinforcing throat band was made of galvanized and was in good enough condition to be used again with a new leather cover. Quote
Members Red Cent Posted April 20, 2014 Author Members Report Posted April 20, 2014 Don't have a problem with that. Got one close by and will check on it Monday. What is the gauge? Quote https://www.facebook.com/redcentcustomleather?ref=bookmarks http://www.redcentcustomleather.com/
Members supercub Posted April 20, 2014 Members Report Posted April 20, 2014 I usually use 22 ga. Galvanized for throat reinforcing bands. That is around .033". Slightly thinner should be fine as well. I've seen it at Lowes and Home Depot as well at ACE. This is the same material that many saddlemakers use to build up saddle seats. If it can take that kind of abuse, holsters are a non event. Quote
Members Dwight Posted April 26, 2014 Members Report Posted April 26, 2014 I just finished a clamshell for a friend, . . . it needed two pieces of metal reinforcement. I used 16 ga aluminum, . . . band saw cut to shape, . . . contact cemented in place, . . . works fine. If you need something that will be covered completely, . . . I have made some out of the 3/32 or so white plastic that is used for post sleeves. I think it is PVC, though it may be a different plastic. One thing for sure, . . . if you rough it up a bit on a sander, . . . it takes to contact cement like a duck does to water. Just remember that if you want to bend it, . . . bend it before you put it in the leather, . . . metal you can bend later, . . . the PVC has to be done first. But boy does it work well when you do it that way !!! May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members malabar Posted May 2, 2014 Members Report Posted May 2, 2014 I just finished a clamshell for a friend, . . . it needed two pieces of metal reinforcement. I used 16 ga aluminum, . . . band saw cut to shape, . . . contact cemented in place, . . . works fine. If you need something that will be covered completely, . . . I have made some out of the 3/32 or so white plastic that is used for post sleeves. I think it is PVC, though it may be a different plastic. One thing for sure, . . . if you rough it up a bit on a sander, . . . it takes to contact cement like a duck does to water. Just remember that if you want to bend it, . . . bend it before you put it in the leather, . . . metal you can bend later, . . . the PVC has to be done first. But boy does it work well when you do it that way !!! May God bless, Dwight Dwight, could you post us a picture of the holster? many thanks tk Quote
Members malabar Posted May 2, 2014 Members Report Posted May 2, 2014 Have any of y'all ever made a fast-draw holster? These typically have a steel liner in the holster to guard against a bullet in the leg. Was wondering what kind of steel you use and how you go about molding it? tk Quote
Members Dwight Posted May 2, 2014 Members Report Posted May 2, 2014 Have any of y'all ever made a fast-draw holster? These typically have a steel liner in the holster to guard against a bullet in the leg. Was wondering what kind of steel you use and how you go about molding it? tk Not really sure where you got your info, . . . the only ones I've seen and used since the late 60's had a thin piece of sheet metal sandwiched between two layers of leather, . . . and the purpose was to keep the holster shaped perfectly so the handgun simply laid in it, . . . virtually zero resistance to pulling it out. In order to have a leg guard for a full house .45 LC, . . . you would be talking about a 1/2 inch piece of plate steel, . . . and it could only be used to deflect into a different direction, . . . certainly not stop it. Add a 3 inch by 12 inch by 1/2 inch slab of steel to the back side of that holster, . . . it weighs 5 pounds. But, . . . back to the original question, . . . the metal has to be litterally hammered into it's final shape using a metal "dummy", . . . to get the cylinder and top strap shape, . . . cover it with leather, . . . cement the edges, . . . bend and fold along the barrel line, . . . shaping it around the "dummy", . . . glue and sew the edges together with appropriate welts, . . . Or, . . . I suppose if a person was a really good tinsmith, . . . cutting, soldering, folding, bending, . . . could produce a decent liner. Lots of work there though. The last one I had was for a Ruger SA .357 Mag, . . . with a 6 inch barrel. It was a good holster, . . . but I also have heard of guys being thrown from a horse or just falling, . . . if the pistol pops out, . . . the holster can collapse, . . . and it becomes a real job to get the thing re-shaped. Good luck, . . . anyone comes to me wanting one, . . . either gets talked out of it, . . . or they find another supplier, . . . they are too much aggravation for me. May God bless, Dwgiht Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Dwight Posted May 2, 2014 Members Report Posted May 2, 2014 Dwight, could you post us a picture of the holster? many thanks tk One clamshell, . . . as requested. This is actually not the holster I made, . . . but is very similar to it. The one piece of metal is under the top piece of leather on the left edge of the front, . . . and a corresponding piece on the back side. Notice the metal screw, . . . it goes through both pieces as a tension adjuster. This one is for a 6 shooter, . . . the one I made was for a 5 rounder. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members malabar Posted May 2, 2014 Members Report Posted May 2, 2014 Not really sure where you got your info, . . . the only ones I've seen and used since the late 60's had a thin piece of sheet metal sandwiched between two layers of leather, . . . and the purpose was to keep the holster shaped perfectly so the handgun simply laid in it, . . . virtually zero resistance to pulling it out. In order to have a leg guard for a full house .45 LC, . . . you would be talking about a 1/2 inch piece of plate steel, . . . and it could only be used to deflect into a different direction, . . . certainly not stop it. Add a 3 inch by 12 inch by 1/2 inch slab of steel to the back side of that holster, . . . it weighs 5 pounds. But, . . . back to the original question, . . . the metal has to be litterally hammered into it's final shape using a metal "dummy", . . . to get the cylinder and top strap shape, . . . cover it with leather, . . . cement the edges, . . . bend and fold along the barrel line, . . . shaping it around the "dummy", . . . glue and sew the edges together with appropriate welts, . . . Or, . . . I suppose if a person was a really good tinsmith, . . . cutting, soldering, folding, bending, . . . could produce a decent liner. Lots of work there though. The last one I had was for a Ruger SA .357 Mag, . . . with a 6 inch barrel. It was a good holster, . . . but I also have heard of guys being thrown from a horse or just falling, . . . if the pistol pops out, . . . the holster can collapse, . . . and it becomes a real job to get the thing re-shaped. Good luck, . . . anyone comes to me wanting one, . . . either gets talked out of it, . . . or they find another supplier, . . . they are too much aggravation for me. May God bless, Dwgiht We have a couple of guys who want to start a fast-draw competition at our club, and they asked me if I could make holsters for them. They said that the holsters had a thin steel core that could deflect the light-charged bullets that are commonly used for fast draw. So I'm just repeating the info I was given. thanks for the clarification. tk Quote
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