mrtreat32 Report post Posted May 26, 2014 I placed a order for a Versa groover from Sheridan leather about 2 months back that at the time was on back order. I don't currently own a groover and was using a pricking wheel to mark my stitches and was looking forward to having a groover to go along with that to help out and for the aesthetic look. Between the time I ordered that and now I had ordered a pricking iron and have been getting much better results and really like the way it makes the stitches look. Question is I forgot to cancel the order for the groover and it has now shipped. I understand using a groover with a pricking iron usually isn't done since it prevents the stitches from slanting and kinda defeats the purpose. So Im not sure how much use I will get out of it although it looks like a great made tool. Are there other uses for groovers that I may find? decorative lines? or for hard creases? Or is this something I should probably sell if I decide to use pricking irons as my main method of sewing leather. Would love to hear how everyone uses their groovers or is it maybe possible to use the groover with the iron? thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humperdingle Report post Posted May 26, 2014 I use mine mostly for decorative lines these days... http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=55836&hl= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidL Report post Posted May 26, 2014 You could try trading it in the marketplace section for a pricking iron, round knife or even just return it back to the store - all you have to do is reject the package at the door and the package is sent back and you pay for the return shipping. Otherwise with a pricking iron its not that usable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrtreat32 Report post Posted May 27, 2014 You could try trading it in the marketplace section for a pricking iron, round knife or even just return it back to the store - all you have to do is reject the package at the door and the package is sent back and you pay for the return shipping. Otherwise with a pricking iron its not that usable. yeah I can probably return it but Im not sure if some point down the line I will want or need one for some other reason. So unless Im gonna get not real use out of it I will hold onto it. Also wasnt sure if people had other good uses for groovers that I wasnt aware of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hi Im Joe Report post Posted May 27, 2014 Just keep it. You never know when you may feel like trying to use it with an overstitch wheel. Also, my own opinion only I would not use the groover for decorative lines. I would use a creaser. Just my .02 cents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt W Knight Report post Posted May 27, 2014 I use a groover and a pricking iron. I run the groover over the leather twice so it make a nice deep groove. Here are some pictures of machine stitch and hand stitch with a pricking iron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrymac Report post Posted May 27, 2014 The purpose of the stitch groover is to provide a channel for the thread to lie thus lowering the thread profile and making it less susceptible to abrasion. Why someone would say you can't utilize a groover and a pricking iron in conjunction with each other is beyond me. As Colt demonstrated with his pictures. the two work together fine with no affect on the angle of the stitching. After stitching, the channel disappears.<br />Terry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glendon Report post Posted May 27, 2014 The people saying that are usually using diamond shaped stitching chisels. Because of how the thread sits, a channel doesn't work as we'll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt W Knight Report post Posted May 27, 2014 I used a diamond shaped pricking iron/awl ( I don't know the technical term for it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites